<HTML><BODY style="word-wrap: break-word; -khtml-nbsp-mode: space; -khtml-line-break: after-white-space; "><BR><DIV><DIV>On Nov 28, 2006, at 4:30 AM, Steve Hodge wrote:</DIV><BR class="Apple-interchange-newline"><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">On 11/28/06, <B class="gmail_sendername">Ben Edwards</B> <<A href="mailto:funkytwig@gmail.com">funkytwig@gmail.com</A>> wrote:<DIV><SPAN class="gmail_quote"></SPAN><BLOCKQUOTE class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> Dont want to have to change the motherboard because I would also<BR>probably have to get a new flower fan and possibly memory.</BLOCKQUOTE><DIV><BR>Flower fan?<BR></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV>I think he means the fan for the CPU heatsink.<BR><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><DIV><DIV><BR>You wouldn't need new memory if you went to a socket 939 board. <BR><BR>I just upgraded my main desktop from an Athlon 2000+ (socket A) to an Athlon64 3500+ (socket 939) and the total cost for motherboard + cpu was on the order of 90 GBP. The DDR 333 memory I already had works fine, so whatever you've got in your socket 754 board will also be fine. <BR> <BR></DIV><BLOCKQUOTE class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> I thought<BR>the Athon64s were not being made any more (<A href="http://dabs.com"> dabs.com</A> in the UK don't<BR>sell them) but will look into this further. <BR></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR>You should still be able to find socket 754 Athlon64s, but the best you can get is still only 3700+ (<A href="http://www.amdcompare.com/us-en/desktop/details.aspx?opn=ADA3700AEP5AR"> http://www.amdcompare.com/us-en/desktop/details.aspx?opn=ADA3700AEP5AR</A>). I'm not sure that's all that great an upgrade for you. Socket 939 would allow you to go as far as an FX-60 or a X2 4800+ (not sure how much benefit dual cores would be - you'd want to look into that). <BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR></DIV><DIV>Socket 939 gives you a dual-channel memory controller (that's the only real difference between 754 and 939), so he might want to go with a matched pair of DIMMS to take advantage of that, but certainly wouldn't have to.</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>The 939-pin Opteron I60 is available in the US for $150, and will overclock easily to FX-60 speeds. Even with stock clock rates it is an incredible deal on a dual-core CPU IMHO.</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>Socket 939 mobos are pretty cheap these days, as they are being supplanted by the AM2s, the ones with AGP graphics ports are getting really inexpensive.</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><BR></BODY></HTML>