<HTML><BODY style="word-wrap: break-word; -khtml-nbsp-mode: space; -khtml-line-break: after-white-space; "><BR><DIV><DIV>On 04/07/2006, at 12:03 AM, tom roth wrote:</DIV><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><DIV><BLOCKQUOTE class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><BR>The idea of sharing other information has been discussed in the past <BR>on thsi list also, and I think one of the major problems would be<BR>ensuring people don't screw up the data (possibly deliberatly). For<BR>example, someone could flag part of a programme as a commercial, which<BR>would effect everyone who relies on that data. <BR><BR>Cheers,<BR>Whytey<BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR>For cutlist info you are probably right, but what i came up with recently is trusted networks for recommendations on recordings. Think of it as gnus (the emacs newsreader) for videos. <BR><BR>This could work as follows:<BR>Configure MythRecommendation to use a reserved part of your strorage (basicaly a quota).<BR>Until this quota is reached mythtv would start recording any recomendations it gets.<BR>Next a ruleset will give weight to the recommendating person, the channel, keywords in the titel etc.. based by your behaviour or explicit settings. <BR><BR>When you delete a recording without watching it 5 points are taken from the person, 2 from the channel, 1 from the keywords, whatever.<BR>When you do a cutlist on the recording points are added to person , channel ... <BR>When you archive the movie even more points are given.<BR>After a while you should find interesting recordings, that you would have missed otherwise. <BR><BR>what do you think ?<BR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR></DIV><DIV>Sounds to me like you are creating "networks of interest" or "interest groups" since not everyone has the same viewing</DIV><DIV>preferences and people with similar viewing interests would naturally reinforce each others recommendations. The</DIV><DIV>basic interest groups would be those that receive the same service, i.e. the same broadcasts (since it does not make </DIV><DIV>any sense to take a recommendation for a recording that is not even being broadcast in my area).</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>For arguments sake I'm assuming that my own recording selections automatically become recommendations for others,</DIV><DIV>as a default setting. To add some spice, it would be good for me to receive feedback, i.e. if my recommendation is</DIV><DIV>not accepted by other peers then I should be notified of this, and similarly if it is archived. This would allow me to not</DIV><DIV>broadcast recommendations that are known to be unacceptable, thus reducing traffic (i.e. rather than be dropped at</DIV><DIV>the other end).</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>You'd need sensible ways of dealing with conflicts (i.e. there are limited inputs available and like many recommendations</DIV><DIV>that cover many more channels than available inputs) and with spam recommendations. Negative reinforcement can</DIV><DIV>eliminate a given IP address but spam will likely use fake IP addresses that could flood the incoming recommendations</DIV><DIV>with faulty or biased data. I guess you are suggesting a ranking scheme that admits high ranking recommendations over</DIV><DIV>low ones. But then this makes it harder for newer and odd recommendations to enter the system. There is a trade off</DIV><DIV>that would be interesting to explore.</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>I like it. What approach would the interconnectivity/peer discovery take? Gnutella? Napster? something else?</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>-a</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; border-spacing: 0px 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 10px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-align: auto; -khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: none; text-indent: 0px; -apple-text-size-adjust: auto; text-transform: none; orphans: 2; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; "><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; border-spacing: 0px 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 10px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-align: auto; -khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: none; text-indent: 0px; -apple-text-size-adjust: auto; text-transform: none; orphans: 2; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; "><DIV>PS>I'm sure that the broadcasters would love to know what people are recording! No doubt they would have a peer in</DIV><DIV>the system as well, monitoring what is being recorded! (or at least, what people are recommending to record)</DIV><BR class="Apple-interchange-newline"></SPAN></SPAN> </DIV><BR></BODY></HTML>