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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-US
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mythtv-users-bounces@mythtv.org [mailto:mythtv-users-bounces@mythtv.org] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Felix Rubinstein<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> 15 April 2006 12:45<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Discussion
about mythtv</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [mythtv-users] MythTV
channel buffer</span></font><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>I reply to this post as Stef understood me better than anybody.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>I use hauppauge pvr 150 running on fedora core 5 and I use the latest
and greates 0.19 downloaded from svn and compiled.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>I live outside US and don't have EPG functionality in MythTV yet as
didn't have time to get my hands dirty to parse XML from local content
provider. I have TV and satellite receiver and 2 remote controls for receiver
and MythTV. Receiver is connected to my PVR via S-Video and PVR to TV using S-Video.
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Since MythTV is not fed with EPG, I use my receiver to help me see
shows scheduling, using receiver's remote control and on any key press I get a
popup showing me the starting and ending time of the show and short
description. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Now, suppose I like tennis and I watch eurosport, and suppose MythTV is
on, and suppose it's 10 a.m. I want to know when there will be tennis if at
all. I press a button on receiver remote control to see what show is at 10 a.m.
I get delay of 4 secs until I see that from 10 to 11 a.m. there is a
soccer, then I press next and only after 4 secs of delay I see that there is
some other show, etc. Now interleave 4 sec delay for every key press on my
satellite remote control all of you would understand that it's unacceptable! <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>If you say that I should first to see the scheduling and only then to
turn on the MythTV, I'd answer I don't want to play with S-Video connectors,
acceptable wish, right?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>I treat MythTV as a generic program, otherwise I would add lots of cron
jobs for:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>cat /dev/video0 > somefileX <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>for every show I want to watch later on, BTW, it's an answer to
those how say I use it this way or other way, is it a generic or not?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>All of you, would it be acceptable if you move a mouse and get 4 secs
delay of mouse coursor, or if you press a button on a keyboard and get it shown
after the same delay?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>It's funny when I hear that there are people who have smaller delay,
any delay is unacceptable!<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>When I say unacceptable I don't demand anything, and I'm thankful to
all of you for attention and to any developer who created MythTV, I'm here to
help, but unfortunately my hands are too much dirty on hacking other things. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>BTW, my 3 years old Philips has all this, as you call, fancy
functionality: pausing rewinding, etc. with 0 (zero) delay!<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>All I wanted is to setup the PVR to my friend who doesn't have lots of
experience in Linux.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>What I mean is that instead of having many features like games and
weather report, I'd like as a professional, for MythTV to do one thing but
to do it well, instead of many half-well!<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>If you open documentation of MythTV <a
href="http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-1.html">http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-1.html</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>you'd see the first bullet says the following -<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>MythTV has a number of capabilities:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>* You may pause, fast-forward and rewind live Television.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Did you point out live TV, not buffered for 4 secs, once again live
TV!!!<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Live TV is a zero-delay stream of bits.<font color=navy><span
style='color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></font></span></font></p>
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