<HTML><BODY style="word-wrap: break-word; -khtml-nbsp-mode: space; -khtml-line-break: after-white-space; ">Bwaahhahahhaaaaaa!!!!<DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV><BR><DIV><DIV>On Feb 24, 2006, at 10:46 PM, Graham Mitchell wrote:</DIV><BR class="Apple-interchange-newline"><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><O:SMARTTAGTYPE namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="time"> <O:SMARTTAGTYPE namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="date"> <DIV class="Section1"><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="3" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size: 12.0pt">> <SPAN class="GramE">although</SPAN> I can think of a few times I've been kissing my girl on the couch while navigating the UI, and<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P><P class="MsoNormal"><SPAN class="GramE"><FONT size="3" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size:12.0pt">> <SPAN style="mso-spacerun:yes"> </SPAN>I</SPAN></FONT></SPAN> didn't know if the remote was going anywhere because I could not hear it<O:P></O:P></P><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="3" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size: 12.0pt"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></FONT></P><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="3" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size: 12.0pt">That is just wrong in so many ways<SPAN class="GramE">…;</SPAN>)<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="3" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size: 12.0pt"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></FONT></P><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="3" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size: 12.0pt"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></FONT></P><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="3" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size: 12.0pt">G</SPAN></FONT><FONT size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><SPAN style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy"><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><SPAN style="font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></FONT></P><P class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><FONT size="2" face="Tahoma"><SPAN style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma">-----Original Message-----<BR> <B><SPAN style="font-weight:bold">From:</SPAN></B> mythtv-users-bounces@mythtv.org [<A href="mailto:mythtv-users-bounces@mythtv.org">mailto:mythtv-users-bounces@mythtv.org</A>] <B><SPAN style="font-weight:bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Steve Dorsey<BR> <B><SPAN style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> </SPAN></FONT><ST1:DATE month="2" day="25" year="2006"><FONT size="2" face="Tahoma"><SPAN style="font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma">Saturday, February 25, 2006</SPAN></FONT></ST1:DATE><FONT size="2" face="Tahoma"><SPAN style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma"> </SPAN></FONT><ST1:TIME hour="1" minute="5"><FONT size="2" face="Tahoma"><SPAN style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Tahoma">1:05 AM</SPAN></FONT></ST1:TIME><FONT size="2" face="Tahoma"><SPAN style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma"><BR> <B><SPAN style="font-weight:bold">To:</SPAN></B> Discussion about mythtv<BR> <B><SPAN style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: [mythtv-users] Button feedback in Myth UI</SPAN></FONT></P><P class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><FONT size="3" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size:12.0pt"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></FONT></P><P class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><FONT size="3" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size:12.0pt">I totally agree. It's not so important in the main interface of MythTV, where you get button feedback in the form of menu options being highlighted or chosen (although I can think of a few times I've been kissing my girl on the couch while navigating the UI, and I didn't know if the remote was going anywhere because I could not hear it). <O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P> <DIV><P class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><FONT size="3" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size:12.0pt"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></FONT></P> </DIV> <DIV><P class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><FONT size="3" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size:12.0pt"> Audio feedback is a very basic element in any media UI. Optional, of course. You'd need to be able to shut it off if it annoys you).<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P> </DIV> <DIV><P class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><FONT size="3" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size:12.0pt"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></FONT></P> </DIV> <DIV><P class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><FONT size="3" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size:12.0pt"> I'd be happy to create beep sounds if needed. I work with audio and waveforms regularly.<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P> </DIV> <DIV><P class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><FONT size="3" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size:12.0pt"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></FONT></P> </DIV> <DIV><P class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><FONT size="3" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size:12.0pt">Thanks,<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P> </DIV> <DIV><P class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><FONT size="3" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size:12.0pt"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></FONT></P> </DIV> <DIV><P class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><FONT size="3" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size:12.0pt">----------------------S<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P> </DIV> <DIV><P class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><FONT size="3" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size:12.0pt"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></FONT></P> </DIV> <DIV><P class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><FONT size="3" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size:12.0pt"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></FONT></P> </DIV> <DIV><P class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><FONT size="3" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size:12.0pt"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></FONT></P> </DIV> <DIV><P class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><FONT size="3" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size:12.0pt"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></FONT></P> </DIV> <DIV><P class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><FONT size="3" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size:12.0pt"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></FONT></P> <DIV> <DIV><P class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><FONT size="3" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size:12.0pt">On </SPAN></FONT><ST1:DATE month="2" day="24" year="2006">Feb 24, 2006</ST1:DATE>, at <ST1:TIME hour="21" minute="52">9:52 PM</ST1:TIME>, Dave Hofstra wrote:<O:P></O:P></P> </DIV><P class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><FONT size="3" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size:12.0pt"><BR style="mso-special-character:line-break"> <BR style="mso-special-character:line-break"> <O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P><P class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom: 12.0pt;margin-left:.5in"><FONT size="3" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size:12.0pt">mine plays those sounds simultaneously, but then I am using the default oss device.. Pretty funny how things work different for different people...<BR> <BR> There really should be a button feedback option in the myth setup menu at this point, I have a really fast computer, and there is still lag when opening mythmusic or something, and it would sure be nice to have feedback on the buttonpresses so that you know when you hit a keystroke. <BR style="mso-special-character: line-break"> <BR style="mso-special-character:line-break"> <O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P> <DIV><P class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><SPAN class="gmailquote"><FONT size="3" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size:12.0pt">On </SPAN></FONT></SPAN><ST1:DATE month="2" day="24" year="2006"><SPAN class="gmailquote">2/24/06</SPAN></ST1:DATE><SPAN class="gmailquote">, <B><SPAN style="font-weight:bold">Steve Dorsey</SPAN></B> <<A href="mailto:info@dorseygraphics.com">info@dorseygraphics.com</A>> wrote:</SPAN><O:P></O:P></P><P class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><FONT size="3" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size:12.0pt">your solution works great, except that it does not beep when I FFWD or RW during playback or live TV. The aplay app stores the keypresses and plays them back when I jump back into a MythTV menu.<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P> <DIV><P class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><FONT size="3" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size:12.0pt"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></FONT></P> </DIV> <DIV><P class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><FONT size="3" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size:12.0pt">beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep <O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P> </DIV> <DIV><P class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><FONT size="3" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size:12.0pt"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></FONT></P> </DIV> <DIV><P class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><FONT size="3" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size:12.0pt">heh - pretty funny.<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P> </DIV> <DIV><P class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><FONT size="3" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size:12.0pt"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></FONT></P> </DIV> <DIV><P class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><FONT size="3" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size:12.0pt">thanks,<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P> </DIV> <DIV><P class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><FONT size="3" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size:12.0pt"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></FONT></P> </DIV> <DIV><P class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><FONT size="3" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size:12.0pt">-----------------------------S<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN id="q_1099e6ec7673edac_2"> <DIV><P class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><FONT size="3" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size:12.0pt"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></FONT></P> </DIV> <DIV><P class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><FONT size="3" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size:12.0pt"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></FONT></P> </DIV> <DIV><P class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><FONT size="3" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size:12.0pt"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></FONT></P> <DIV> <DIV><P class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><FONT size="3" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size:12.0pt">On Feb 24, 2006, at 2:25 PM, Dave Hofstra wrote:<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P> </DIV><P class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><FONT size="3" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size:12.0pt"><BR style="mso-special-character:line-break"> <BR style="mso-special-character:line-break"> <O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P><P class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom: 12.0pt;margin-left:.5in"><FONT size="3" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size:12.0pt">Per something I found on the wiki somewhere, in the 'General' setup section you can put something like "aplay -q /path/to/sound/file/soundfile.wav" in the 'keypress application' area. This is a hack, but now that I have done it it works quite well. Note that I had to restart the frontend application to notice the change. Also note that it works for LIRC keypresses, not the ones on the keyboard. <BR> <BR> The knoppmyth link led me to a thread with some pretty cool sounds, but they were a little obtrusive while browsing music.<BR> <BR> I use the mediaportal software for myth-like functionality on my M$ Laptop. Mediaportal ( <A href="http://www.team-mediaportal.com/" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">http://www.team-mediaportal.com/</A>) has a really nice little click sound for their cursor movements. I tried it in myth and it works beautifully. <BR> <BR> You can download thier butcher 2 theme at <A href="http://www.team-mediaportal.com/component/option,com_remository/Itemid,35/func,select/id,11/" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">http://www.team-mediaportal.com/component/option,com_remository/Itemid,35/func,select/id,11/</A><BR> and find the cursor.wav file in the sound directory (it is the same sound as in the main program's theme, just a smaller download.) <BR> <BR> I will also host the file for anyone that is too lazy, but please email me right away if you think it is some kind of violation. I dont think so cuz the project is open-source, and the dev's have been nice to me with other things in the past. <BR> <BR> <A href="http://lisadaveh.home.comcast.net/myxer/cursor.wav" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">http://lisadaveh.home.comcast.net/myxer/cursor.wav</A><BR> <BR> let me know what you think about possibly putting this in the wiki. I suppose I could ask permission from one of the MediaPortal dev's and see if they'd allow our wiki to host the file or something. <BR> <BR> Dave Hofstra<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P> <DIV><P class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><SPAN class="gmailquote"><FONT size="3" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size:12.0pt">On 2/22/06, <B><SPAN style="font-weight:bold">Steve Dorsey</SPAN></B> <<A href="mailto:info@dorseygraphics.com" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"> info@dorseygraphics.com</A>> wrote:</SPAN></FONT></SPAN><O:P></O:P></P><P class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><FONT size="3" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size:12.0pt">Hello<BR> <BR> Is there a way to assign a beep sound to the button selections in <BR> the MythTV UI? So that when I select items in a menu, I get a<BR> "click" or "beep"? 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