On 1/17/06, <b class="gmail_sendername">Jake</b> <<a href="mailto:jakeisawake@gmail.com">jakeisawake@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<div><span class="gmail_quote"></span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
i was under the impression that if a user wants to run svn then they<br>are expected to at the very least be following the -commits mailing<br>list. and it is strongly suggested that they also follow the -dev<br>list. at least this is how it's been in the past so maybe this has
<br>changed but from the <a href="http://mythtv.org">mythtv.org</a> site it doesn't seem like it has:</blockquote><div><br>Once again this comes back to the issue (which has already been
discussed in considerable detail) that for people who are getting
started with SVN, there is a LOT of information digest at once.
Something which provides a quick summary of what's going on surely
can't be hurtful.<br><br>After all, one could argue that we don't need any documentation at all, just refer to the mailing list :)<br><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
"DO NOT use CVS if you have had any problems getting the last release<br>to run. If you're using CVS, it's also a very good idea to subscribe<br>to the commits list -- I often include update notes and warnings in<br>
the commit message." obviously we are just replacing cvs with svn now<br>so i can't see why this policy would change.</blockquote><div><br>If this is referring to the last stable release, it's a little ironic considering the massive number of fixes the dev builds provide in respect to the problems in the last release.
<br><br>Ok sure, I can understand the over hassled devs already have enough on their hands than having to deal with more newbies coming in and going 'what the?'. Which is (I assume) part of the reason Jens suggested the FAQ in the first place. In an ideal world, we will have SVN newbies who constantly monitor the mailing lists and know exactly what's going on, and those who didn't wouldn't use the dev branch at all, or if they did they would be completely silent. This would be nice but I am not going to stake money on it anytime soon.
<br></div><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">as for when .19 comes out i would expect that the official <a href="http://mythtv.org">
mythtv.org</a><br>docs will be updated to reflect the new livetv system and the pitfalls<br>associated with it. maybe the best way to contribute would be to help<br>in updating the offical documentation for .19 instead of creating yet
<br>another FAQ. this is just how i see the situation so take my opinion<br>with a grain of salt i guess.</blockquote><div><br>For all intents and purposes, at this stage it is much the same thing - some central, summarised resource for people to consult for the new changes. Whether it's called a FAQ, .19 documentation or the book of matthew, none of it will be truely definite until the .19 release is finalized. For this reason I'd lean towards a more unofficial and flexible document, which could be incorporated into official documentation later, but at the end of the day I don't really think it matters.
<br> </div></div>Andy<br>