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<DIV><FONT face=Garamond>Jeez, all this bottom to top posting is making my
dizzy. I will try my hand at it.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Garamond></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Garamond>Anyway, what the previous guy said. Any
single WEP, WPA or WPA2 packet will have your MAC and SSID in its
header. If you have a single machine associated with your AP, it will
"heartbeat" within a minute and the snoops has everything they
need.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Garamond></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Garamond>Additionally, they will have an encrypted packet
(or more likely since you are running Myth, about a zillion packets, which helps
them greatly) to go attack offline at home. They can come back a month
later and be on your network within seconds.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Garamond></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Garamond>All overkill if you ask me since about 60% of the
networks in my neighborhood are wide open and 99% of the rest are running
WEP. My network isn't that interesting to a wardriver with access
to the zillions of easily open networks...networks that probably also have
Windows machines with Administrator passwords set to null.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Garamond></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Garamond>Bottom Line: Use WPA2 and forget about the other
things that are a mess to maintain if you frequently have visitors.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Garamond></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Garamond>Todd</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=gargiullo@comcast.net href="mailto:gargiullo@comcast.net">Michael
Gargiullo</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=mythtv-users@mythtv.org
href="mailto:mythtv-users@mythtv.org">'Discussion about mythtv'</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, December 10, 2005 9:59
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: [mythtv-users] STAY AWAY
FROM WI-FI !!!</DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><I><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-STYLE: italic">And if that MAC is connected, as
my remote stations always are they<BR>will not be successful spoofing a
MAC.</SPAN></FONT></I></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Umm no. If your
machine is always connected, it only makes it easier to figure out which MAC
to spoof. A few spoofed packets will knock your box off, and associate
mine.</SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Does it help… sure,
but it should always be backed up with a non-broadcasted essid, and at least
WPA.</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial color=navy
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">-Mike</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">-----Original
Message-----<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B>
mythtv-users-bounces@mythtv.org [mailto:mythtv-users-bounces@mythtv.org]
<B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>John
Andersen<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B>
</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">Friday, December 09,
2005</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"> </SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Tahoma
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">12:25
AM</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"><BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> Discussion about mythtv<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: [mythtv-users] STAY AWAY
FROM WI-FI !!!</SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><SPAN class=gmailquote><FONT
face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">On 12/8/05,
<B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Todd</SPAN></B> <<A
href="mailto:nospam@tippyturtle.com">nospam@tippyturtle.com</A>>
wrote:</SPAN></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><BR><BR>Not to fan the flames
here...but...<BR><BR>1. MAC filtering is a joke, any bored 12 year
old kid can spoof a trusted<BR>MAC. So is thinking you are hidden
by turning off broadcast SSID..etc. If<BR>you have a machine
talking to your AP, the snoop can see all they need to
<BR>know.</SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><BR><BR>But they have to know which MAC
to spoof don't they. <BR><BR>And if that MAC is connected, as my remote
stations always are they<BR>will not be successful spoofing a
MAC.</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"></SPAN></FONT> </P></DIV></DIV>
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