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style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; color: windowtext; font-weight: bold;">From:</span></font></b><font
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<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:mythtv-users-bounces@mythtv.org">mythtv-users-bounces@mythtv.org</a>
[<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:mythtv-users-bounces@mythtv.org">mailto:mythtv-users-bounces@mythtv.org</a>] <b><span
style="font-weight: bold;">On
Behalf Of </span></b>Brad Fuller<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Sunday, November
13, 2005
12:26 PM<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName
w:st="on">Discussion about mythtv</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re:
Installing older
Kernel (was: Re: [mythtv-users] ivtv-kmdl andlirc-kmdl for
2.6.14-1.1637
missing)</span></font><font color="black"><span
style="color: windowtext;"><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Brad Fuller wrote: <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="black" face="Times New Roman"
size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Brad Fuller wrote: <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="black" face="Times New Roman"
size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Brad Fuller wrote: <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="black" face="Times New Roman"
size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Darren Coleman wrote: <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<pre wrap=""><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">This is good advice.<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">I have learnt through previous trial-and-error to stop blindly using "yum<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">update" to upgrade the kernel until I am sure ivtv-kmdl has been updated for<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">the new kernel. :)<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">Daz<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;"> <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
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style="font-size: 10pt;">-----Original Message-----<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">From: <a
href="mailto:mythtv-users-bounces@mythtv.org">mythtv-users-bounces@mythtv.org</a> [<a
href="mailto:mythtv-users">mailto:mythtv-users</a>-<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;"><a href="mailto:bounces@mythtv.org">bounces@mythtv.org</a>] On Behalf Of Jos Hoekstra<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">Sent: 13 November 2005 09:05<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">To: <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Discussion about mythtv</st1:PersonName><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] ivtv-kmdl and lirc-kmdl for 2.6.14-1.1637<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">missing<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">As usual we should give Axel a bit of time to get everything together,<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">he 's doing a great job building everything so we don't have to.<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">Paying back with a bit of patience is the least we can do ;)<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
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style="font-size: 10pt;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
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style="font-size: 10pt;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">Jos<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;"> <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
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size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Thanks all for replies. <br>
I honestly didn't know that I was using a kernel that was so new! I was
just
going through Jarod's guide.<br>
Ok, what kernel is safe?<br>
<br>
BTW, Axel sent this FYI:<br>
<br>
<br>
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style="font-size: 10pt;">--<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">ivtv is in the repo, but the generated links on the webpage broke since<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">Nov. 5th. Thanks for reproting! Either add <span
class="moz-txt-tag"><i><span style="font-style: italic;">/</span></i></span><i><span
style="font-style: italic;">all<span class="moz-txt-tag">/</span></span></i> in the link or use<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
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style="font-size: 10pt;">smart/apt/yum etc.<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">Finally alsa-driver is broken on 2.6.14, too. I'll upload 1.0.10rc3<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">later today.<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">On the long run I'll try to focus with v4l/ivtv/mythtv bits on RHEL4,<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">and try to convince Jarod to rebase his guide (although 99% is the<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">same as FC4). FC4 is upgrading the kernel far too often, including<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">major upgrades and broken ones, too. And I'd like a more stable<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">platform for productive systems, including PVRs.<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
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<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">-- <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">Axel.Thimm at ATrpms.net<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
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style="font-size: 10pt;">---<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="black" face="Times New Roman"
size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">When I do:<br>
yum list kernel*<br>
<br>
There are no other kernel's available but the ones I have installed
(2.6.14-1.1637_FC4 and the old 2.6.11-1.1369_FC4)<br>
How can I go back a version with yum? (say 1532, seems appropriate?) <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="black" face="Times New Roman"
size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">oh... I did try to manually
install the 1532 kernel
with rpm, but rpm complained that I had a newer kernel and refused to
install.<br>
<br>
I don't know about kernels and versions AFA: can you install a kernel
with rpm
and then just update grub.conf to pick which one to boot with? Will
all
kernels still be available IF you install them with 'rpm" rather than
'yum' or 'apt-get'? <br>
<br>
Put another way, does yum and apt-get have some magic of installing
multiple
kernels (in their unique dirs) that rpm does not?<br>
<br>
Better would be if I could yum install kernel at some older level, but
none
seem to be available on the fedora sites. (per my last msg)<br>
<br>
thanks for the help,<br>
brad<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="black" face="Times New Roman"
size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">before you ask, yes, I used
rpm -i not -U to install
the older kernel rpm<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">You could
always exclude the kernel’s
from being updated by yum and build a custom kernel [ <a
href="http://www.kernel.org/">www.kernel.org</a> ] for your system. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p><font color="navy" face="Times New Roman" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; color: navy;">"Let ye without segmentation
fault cast the first int!"<br>
<br>
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what I did was:<br>
<br>
* Google for kernel-2.6.13-1.1532_FC4.i686.rpm <br>
* Download it from <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://rpmfind.net">http://rpmfind.net</a> Hope this is no a mistake! I
don't know this site! What an easy way to infiltrate with a virus)<br>
* # yum localinstall kernel-2.6.13-1.1532_FC4.i686.rpm<br>
<br>
This will install, along with dependencies if available, as a regular
yum install. Now I have the older 11 version kernel, the newer 14 and
this version.<br>
So far, it works fine. I'm now going thru the jarod's install entirely.<br>
<br>
brad<br>
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