<HTML><BODY style="word-wrap: break-word; -khtml-nbsp-mode: space; -khtml-line-break: after-white-space; ">I use the Adesso Wireless IR as well<DIV><FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#0000FF" face="Times New Roman" size="4"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 16px; text-decoration: underline;"><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#0000FF" face="Times New Roman" size="4"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 16px; text-decoration: underline;"><A href="http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1388866&CatId=537">http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1388866&CatId=537</A></SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>Works great has hand grips on the bottom and a built in track ball. I do not know the range, I use it about 9' from the TV, and use a cable distribution to send the IR to the Server in the basement. Works GREAT!</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>I programed learning remotes to emulate the keys I needed for MythTV, and have them at the other TV around the house.</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>The cable distr<FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#000000">ibution is "</FONT><FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#000000">A Two-Channel Modulator That Distributes A/V Sources to Local and Distant TVs"</FONT><FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#000000">;</FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#0000FF" face="Times New Roman" size="4"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 16px; text-decoration: underline;"><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#0000FF" face="Times New Roman" size="4"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 16px; text-decoration: underline;"><A href="http://www.smarthome.com/7717.html">http://www.smarthome.com/7717.html</A></SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#0000FF" face="Times New Roman" size="4"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 16px; text-decoration: underline;"></SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>The Remote IR Targets to<FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#000000"> send the IR back to the Server are part of the Cable Distribution. These are "</FONT><FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#000000">IR Target for Multi-Room Video Distribution System"</FONT></DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV><FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#0000FF" face="Times New Roman" size="4"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 16px; text-decoration: underline;"><A href="http://www.smarthome.com/7718.html">http://www.smarthome.com/7718.html</A></SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#0000FF" face="Times New Roman" size="4"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 16px; text-decoration: underline;"></SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>I use the keyboard when I need system issues, but all other times the Sony and Logitech learning remotes and the above system work great.</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV><BR><DIV><DIV>On Nov 2, 2005, at 9:18 AM, Tony Pisarek wrote:</DIV><BR class="Apple-interchange-newline"><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">On Wed, 2005-11-02 at 09:14 -0500, Michael T. Dean wrote:</DIV> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Alberto Alonso wrote:</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">It seems that the ATI Remote Wonder handles the range</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">that I need. How about an RF keyboard? Those are the</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">ones that I was talking about when I said > $180/ea</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Anybody has a less expensive solution?</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV> <BR></BLOCKQUOTE><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">I think all the manufacturers are purposefully reducing the range on<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">keyboards after HP got in a bit of a bad position in 2002/2003 because<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">of security implications of long-range wireless keyboards.</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><A href="http://www.theregister.com/2003/01/21/qwertyoops/">http://www.theregister.com/2003/01/21/qwertyoops/</A></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><A href="http://www.theregister.co.uk/2002/11/21/why_does_my_typing_appear/">http://www.theregister.co.uk/2002/11/21/why_does_my_typing_appear/</A></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">So, maybe your best approach would be to scan e-bay for some 2002-model<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">HP keyboards (and hope that your neighbors don't have any)...</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Mike</DIV> <BR></BLOCKQUOTE><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">I purchased an Infra-Red Keyboard and am very pleased.. My range</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">requirement is about 25 feet and it seems to handle it very well... The</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">box states that it has a 23 foot range.<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>I paid $45 US.</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">I purchased it from a friend but found the same model at Amazon.com..</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">It's description is:</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Adesso Wireless IR 88-Key Mini Black PS/2 Keyboard,<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>Binding Electronics</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">C66772.</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Tony</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">_______________________________________________</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">mythtv-users mailing list</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><A href="mailto:mythtv-users@mythtv.org">mythtv-users@mythtv.org</A></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><A href="http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users">http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users</A></DIV> <BR class="Apple-interchange-newline"></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR><DIV> <SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; border-spacing: 0px 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-align: auto; -khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: none; text-indent: 0px; -apple-text-size-adjust: auto; text-transform: none; orphans: 2; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; "><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; border-spacing: 0px 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-align: auto; -khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: none; text-indent: 0px; -apple-text-size-adjust: auto; text-transform: none; orphans: 2; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; "><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">From:</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><SPAN class="Apple-converted-tab"> </SPAN>Kevin Cossaboon</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><SPAN class="Apple-converted-tab"> </SPAN>Home MAC Mini Computer</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "> <A href="http://www.cossaboon.net">http://www.cossaboon.net</A></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "> <A href="mailto:cossaboon.mythtv@mac.com">cossaboon.mythtv@mac.com</A></DIV><BR class="Apple-interchange-newline"></SPAN></SPAN> </DIV><BR></DIV></BODY></HTML>