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Jim Reith wrote:
<blockquote cite="mid6.1.2.0.0.20050805122051.0831f970@pop.racores.com"
type="cite">At 11:43 AM 8/5/2005, you wrote:
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<blockquote type="cite">Jim Reith wrote:
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<br>
<blockquote type="cite">At 10:19 AM 8/5/2005, you wrote:
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<blockquote type="cite">James Oltman <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:cnlibmyth@gmail.com"><cnlibmyth@gmail.com></a>
wrote:
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> if it can be read, it can be cracked.
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>
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There are two issues: 1) technical, 2) philosophical (the priciple of
the
<br>
idea).
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i don't see a philosophical issue if you own the CD and are ripping it
for
<br>
personal use. If they infringe on your personal use, that's a problem.
<br>
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And I find the technical description of only allowing it to be ripped a
<br>
fixed number of times silly. If it's a read only media, how can they
<br>
enforce that. Just go to another untainted machine (I'm assuming the
rip
<br>
count is a cookie somewhere)
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There isn't valid red-book CD Audio on the disc. What is stored there
may
<br>
or may not work with standards-compliant CD players, though generally
not
<br>
anything that moves such as a car or, portable player.
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Since I primarily listen to CDs in my car for my hour+ commute, that's
a
<br>
deal breaker for me and back it goes
<br>
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<blockquote type="cite">The rip restrictions rely on a unique ID
written to some sectors of the
<br>
disc. When you try to rip with Windows Media Player (other rippers are
<br>
liable to choke on the non-CD data), your ID is verified against a
<br>
database, to see whether you have permission to rip. If not, tough
luck.
<br>
If so, you rip to protected WMA files which include your ID number, and
<br>
perform lookups against Microsoft's databases per-play.
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Results: If your computer's ID number changes (e.g. you reformat
Windows),
<br>
all your music is rendered useless, unless the per-disc restrictions
allow
<br>
you to re-acquire a license to your files. If your disk crashes, you
need
<br>
to re-rip your music, ticking down your counter.
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</blockquote>
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So I'd have to buy a windows machine to enjoy it? fat chance
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<blockquote type="cite">Again, in many cases (especially with Linux,
or by employing a felt-tipped
<br>
pen) you can bypass the copy protection mechanisms. Should you need to?
<br>
Should you encourage their use by buying the technology and calling it
good?
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</blockquote>
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Nope. but then I guess I'm not part of that 90% windows users in the
<br>
database. And I DO make throw away copies of CDs I buy before leaving
them
<br>
(the throw aways) to bake in my car. Likewise I have a friend with
small
<br>
children that does the same things with DVDs his kids watch so he can
<br>
always remaster one that has been abused by small hands.
<br>
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<blockquote type="cite">--Jo Shields
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<font face="Arial">DVD's were intentionally made to be fragile so that
they would easily be destroyed by "small hands". This is not (in the
view of the media houses) a legitimate reason to duplicate a DVD. The
original DVD-RAMs had a hard plastic protective shell, much like the
Sony MiniDisc. But the Movie industry lobbied for the existing
format. They want you to have to buy 5 copies of "Finding Nemo"
because your 2 year old keeps destroying it, and then throws tantrums
because they can't watch it. That's also why they lobbied for the DMCA.</font><br>
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