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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I had also toyed with suggesting a licensing scheme
(if I ever manage to get my own test system working and eventually get a
business built around the same concept) but I'd also thought that maybe the core
developers could be paid on a contract basis to work on such demanding things as
fixing the EPG when Zap2It changed their schema/shuts their doors and other such
disastrous events that would otherwise render Myth useless or at a serious
disadvantage. Let's face it, without an EPG it becomes far less
attractive so there's incentive for a supplier to get such things worked out
ASAP and an incentive for the core developers to be paid for their hard
work.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Certainly something to ponder I think.</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=edward.wildgoose@frmhedge.com
href="mailto:edward.wildgoose@frmhedge.com">Edward Wildgoose</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=ramon.roca@xcombo.com
href="mailto:ramon.roca@xcombo.com">ramon.roca@xcombo.com</A> ; <A
title=mythtv-users@snowman.net
href="mailto:mythtv-users@snowman.net">Discussion about mythtv</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, April 27, 2003 2:42
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [mythtv-users] selling
hardware</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I think this is a great idea. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>However, I think that if you wanted to build a
*business* then a really great forward would be to try and build into the
price some slack to either "pay" developers for new feature requests, or
perhaps just to effectively offer a "licence" cost back to help fund future
developments. There is obviously no *obligation* to do this, but I would
like to think that we can give something back to Isaac and the other
developers who have contributed to this great project</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Good luck!</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=ramon.roca@xcombo.com
href="mailto:ramon.roca@xcombo.com">ramon.roca@xcombo.com</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=mythtv-users@snowman.net
href="mailto:mythtv-users@snowman.net">Discussion about mythtv</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, April 27, 2003 7:15
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [mythtv-users] selling
hardware</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I've already seen a post with this
subject before. </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>The fact is that in the very last days weeks,
as soon as I've got my box working, I'm getting friends who ask me for
bulding another one for them. At this point I've already built half dozen of
units, you can imagine, no free time since that.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>That is giving me a lot of work since right now
I was still not able to create a linux image with everything and then
just dump it on the new hardware. But hopefully I'll be able to do it in the
near future.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>What I'm configuring currently is a box with a
full featured linux (I've tried with RedHat and SuSE), with a Pinnacle PCTV
pro, Hauppauge Nexus-s for Satellite TV, MSI Hermes 650-P barebone box, a
wireless PCMCIA to get networked, a 1700 Celeron and a 80GB HDF. I'm
curretly using both mythtv (CVS) and vdr (which means many overlaped
functionality).</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>What happens here (Spain) is that there is
nothing like TiVo (yet), and the ones that will come in the future looks
like will be related to commercial broadcasting platforms/initiatives that
in any case will be based on commercial software and a monthly
fee.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>What I see is that this kind of set-top box is
really attractive, but for any people who don't have previous
experience in linux (like me three months before), requires time and
investigation to let it work, as well of risks having to choose the
appropiate hardware etc. At least that was my experience.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Since I'm really excited on this idea, and as
long as it fits into my possibilities, I don't care of spending time
building those boxes. I think that it is a way also for extending the use of
linux to people who otherwise will not have ever a chance for
it.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Being realistic, that's not a business. I'm not
a harware dealer. In fact I'm selling those units installed, with a lot of
time spent on each one without extra cost for the buyer: the software is GNU
and the hardware, whatever it costs. At this point I do only see a
testimonial return as soon as I get discounts from the hardware distributors
(5%, max 10%).</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>But again, I think that doing this I'm doing
the right thing and contributing to this king of projects and the linux
community. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>If someone else is also interested on doing
this, maybe we can setup together a serious inititiative around the globe (I
haven't seen in Spain people doing this yet). Maybe someone else is already
in the same situation like me. Let me know if anyone is
interested.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Ramon.</FONT></DIV>
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