[mythtv-users] Season/Episode: guide listing grabber vs. metadata grabber

[Roland Ernst]

On Sun, Jan 4, 2026 at 4:01 PM Hika van den Hoven <hikavdh at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hoi John,
>
> Saturday, January 3, 2026, 7:48:28 PM, you wrote:
>
> > The metadata grabbers have to guess a bit. One consequence of this
> > is that the Episode information can in some cases be wrong, with an
> > example being for multiple episodes broadcast on the same day.
>
>
> > SchedulesDirect provides "syndicated episode" data which is far
> > more likely to be accurate. Other listing providers may do the same.
>
>
IMHO, you can not assume that one method is more accurate than the other.
Think about a long lasting series which has been recorded
and re-recorded since the year 2010.
Do you know how accurate the data from SD are in different countries?


>
> > In MythTV v35, if you choose to sort the tv shows by
> > season/episode, it is using the metadata grabber information. In
> > MythTV v36, it will prefer to use the listing grabber information if
> > it exists, and fall back to the metadata grabber info otherwise. If
> > neither is available, it falls back to the original airdate.
>
>
The original airdate is often not present, or depends on the result
of the metadata grabber.
And using the airdate instead does not provide any accuracy if
the series is re-aired a later time.


>
> > This leaves the issue of displaying the season/episode information
> > in myth. Themers have the choice to display "s01e01" or "1x1" (both
> > of those from the metadata grabber) or "syndicatedepisode" (which
> > displays as S1E1). Right now, there is a mechanism for a theme to
> > "depend" on some data to exist which can then determine how data is
> > formatted. However, it is limited in its flexibility.
>
>
> > My question is, should I extend the flexibility to give themers the
> > option to format the data one way if syndicatedepisode exists, and
> > another if it does not, and another if the subtitle does not exist, and
> ....
>
>
> > Or, do I take the choice away from the themer and just have
> > "s01e01" and "1x1" automatically return the syndicated episode
> > information in preference to the metadata grabber information?
>
>
> > Thoughts?
>
>
> > John
>
>
I wold prefer a user select-able option that sorts either the one or the
other way,
by using the syndicate-episode or season/episode values.
It would be good to be able to change this option instantly on the
display.

Roland
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