[mythtv-users] Mythfilldatabase taking FOREVER

glen glenb at glenb.net
Tue Jun 14 01:49:39 UTC 2022


On Mon, 2022-06-13 at 21:40 -0400, Larry Kennedy wrote:
> 
> 
> On Mon, Jun 13, 2022 at 9:21 PM Bill Meek <keemllib at gmail.com> wrote:
> > On 6/13/22 19:54, Larry Kennedy wrote:
> > > 
> > > On Tue, Jun 7, 2022 at 9:52 PM Larry Kennedy
> > <lunchtimelarry at gmail.com <mailto:lunchtimelarry at gmail.com>> wrote:
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > >     On Sun, Jun 5, 2022 at 2:06 PM Gary Buhrmaster
> > <gary.buhrmaster at gmail.com <mailto:gary.buhrmaster at gmail.com>>
> > wrote:
> > > 
> > >         On Sun, Jun 5, 2022 at 3:06 AM Gary Buhrmaster
> > >         <gary.buhrmaster at gmail.com
> > <mailto:gary.buhrmaster at gmail.com>> wrote:
> > > 
> > >          > There are numerous checks to determine if the
> > >          > existing program is *really* the same (with all the
> > >          > details).  Sometimes it is, sometimes it is not
> > >          > ("generic" programs such as news often get
> > >          > updates as the time gets closer to the "now"
> > >          > value).
> > > 
> > >         And, as I recall, the generic (daily) news programs
> > >         can sometimes be marked as repeats, and
> > >         sometimes not, due to the logic that mythfilldatabase
> > >         and the upstream scheduling source use.
> > > 
> > >          > And mythfilldatabase does some additional
> > >          > adjustments of the data that can (next run) result
> > >          > in detections of changes.  Some of which was
> > >          > improved with recent (supported) releases of
> > >          > MythTV.
> > > 
> > >         At the end of the run, there is a line of the form:
> > >                Updated programs: nnnnn Unchanged programs: nnnnnn
> > >         which indicates how many programs were updated.
> > > 
> > >         If you run the same mythfilldatabase load immediately
> > >         again (which implies the same source guide data) you
> > >         will likely see a small (but persistent) number of
> > updates
> > >         due to how MythTV manages the program data and
> > >         detection of changes (which require updates).  For
> > >         a daily run, ~10% changes for Schedules Direct is
> > >         not atypical as generic placeholder show data get
> > >         replaced with actual episode data for the particular
> > >         showings and new data for an additional day.
> > > 
> > >         Running a recent mythfilldatabase and a recent
> > >         version of the grabber, which together support
> > >         (mostly) accurate new (previouslyshown) marking,
> > >         I tended to use --no-mark-repeats to prevent
> > >         mythfilldatabase from "improving" the program
> > >         data (you can also modify the database setting
> > >         NewEpisodeWindow to accomplish something
> > >         equivalent, both mostly only matter because
> > >         Schedules Direct actually often has more than
> > >         14 days of program data, and using/changing
> > >         either may cause different issues depending
> > >         on the details (and --no-mark-repeats had
> > >         a specific bug when used in older versions)).
> > > 
> > >         Lastly, sometimes database tuning may be
> > >         appropriate.  From time to time there are
> > >         discussions on the MythTV email lists, or
> > >         forum, regarding database tuning,  Running
> > >         mysqltuner.pl <http://email.mg.glenb.net/c/eJwlzEEOgyAQQNHTyK5EBwdlwaKb3mNgBm2CVhGbePuaNPmbt_nsYyLGXr09JgPWAWFPyDymwbBYDGydAYNsKLYWAIKOtEhu-nbKsga9SlWzT5GCdDZFTMAjWTHOEXRDN2I7AEaV_Vzr1phnA6-75Tr2XM9Vit6yKn656ly_j_OQctzrP_WnTD8eUDJ2> can point out
> > specific cases
> > >         which may be causing issues (just be aware
> > >         that not everything mentioned by that script
> > >         is actually going to be an issue for MythTV).
> > > 
> > > 
> > >     OK, Gary, I bit the bullet and upgraded to Ubuntu 20 LTS and
> > Mythtv 31. I'm sure that will help long term, but it sure created
> > some
> > >     additional drama :)
> > > 
> > >     I found some old tuning parameters in mysql.cnf that I think
> > were problematic (thanks Bill from another post of yours I stumbled
> > across).  I
> > >     removed those and it seems to help.  MFDB logging shows that
> > inserts/deletes are now taking 1 second or less, as seen here:
> > > 
> > >     2022-06-07 21:47:44.317605 I  Removing existing program:
> > 2022-06-13T14:00:00Z - 2022-06-13T15:00:00Z
> > I57391.json.schedulesdirect.org
> > >     <http://email.mg.glenb.net/c/eJwljcsOgyAQAL9GbiW6sDwOHHpp0s9AdhUbqw1gk_59bZrMZTKHoZCmSKjFEnBSYDxE1BGJ3GQVscGRjFegkFRMvQGAUab45LXT_bzyNsqNm8hhINCOPRlCB2Ct0z0l55AZDQxMYg25tVenrh3cTu5olR_ko-6brCkzHStXWgqnJvcyixKen5bb-3JULvWc_fXXvmevN6M> Little People, Big
> > World
> > >     2022-06-07 21:47:45.123297 I  Inserting new program    :
> > 2022-06-13T14:00:00Z - 2022-06-13T15:00:00Z
> > I57391.json.schedulesdirect.org
> > >     <http://email.mg.glenb.net/c/eJwljcsOgyAQAL9GbiW6sDwOHHpp0s9AdhUbqw1gk_59bZrMZTKHoZCmSKjFEnBSYDxE1BGJ3GQVscGRjFegkFRMvQGAUab45LXT_bzyNsqNm8hhINCOPRlCB2Ct0z0l55AZDQxMYg25tVenrh3cTu5olR_ko-6brCkzHStXWgqnJvcyixKen5bb-3JULvWc_fXXvmevN6M> Little People, Big
> > World
> > >     2022-06-07 21:47:47.038876 I  Removing existing program:
> > 2022-06-13T15:00:00Z - 2022-06-13T16:00:00Z
> > I57391.json.schedulesdirect.org
> > >     <http://email.mg.glenb.net/c/eJwljcsOgyAQAL9GbiW6sDwOHHpp0s9AdhUbqw1gk_59bZrMZTKHoZCmSKjFEnBSYDxE1BGJ3GQVscGRjFegkFRMvQGAUab45LXT_bzyNsqNm8hhINCOPRlCB2Ct0z0l55AZDQxMYg25tVenrh3cTu5olR_ko-6brCkzHStXWgqnJvcyixKen5bb-3JULvWc_fXXvmevN6M> Little People, Big
> > World
> > >     2022-06-07 21:47:47.927278 I  Inserting new program    :
> > 2022-06-13T15:00:00Z - 2022-06-13T16:00:00Z
> > I57391.json.schedulesdirect.org
> > >     <http://email.mg.glenb.net/c/eJwljcsOgyAQAL9GbiW6sDwOHHpp0s9AdhUbqw1gk_59bZrMZTKHoZCmSKjFEnBSYDxE1BGJ3GQVscGRjFegkFRMvQGAUab45LXT_bzyNsqNm8hhINCOPRlCB2Ct0z0l55AZDQxMYg25tVenrh3cTu5olR_ko-6brCkzHStXWgqnJvcyixKen5bb-3JULvWc_fXXvmevN6M> Little People, Big
> > World
> > >     2022-06-07 21:47:49.853728 I  Removing existing program:
> > 2022-06-13T18:00:00Z - 2022-06-13T19:00:00Z
> > I57391.json.schedulesdirect.org
> > >     <http://email.mg.glenb.net/c/eJwljcsOgyAQAL9GbiW6sDwOHHpp0s9AdhUbqw1gk_59bZrMZTKHoZCmSKjFEnBSYDxE1BGJ3GQVscGRjFegkFRMvQGAUab45LXT_bzyNsqNm8hhINCOPRlCB2Ct0z0l55AZDQxMYg25tVenrh3cTu5olR_ko-6brCkzHStXWgqnJvcyixKen5bb-3JULvWc_fXXvmevN6M> 90 Day Diaries
> > >     2022-06-07 21:47:50.308645 I  Inserting new program    :
> > 2022-06-13T18:00:00Z - 2022-06-13T19:00:00Z
> > I57391.json.schedulesdirect.org
> > >     <http://email.mg.glenb.net/c/eJwljcsOgyAQAL9GbiW6sDwOHHpp0s9AdhUbqw1gk_59bZrMZTKHoZCmSKjFEnBSYDxE1BGJ3GQVscGRjFegkFRMvQGAUab45LXT_bzyNsqNm8hhINCOPRlCB2Ct0z0l55AZDQxMYg25tVenrh3cTu5olR_ko-6brCkzHStXWgqnJvcyixKen5bb-3JULvWc_fXXvmevN6M> 90 Day Diaries
> > > 
> > >     Still, this is going to take longer than one would think
> > necessary.  Especially, given that this is not the first run
> > following the upgrade.
> > > 
> > >     I have a few questions about why MFDB is slow:
> > > 
> > >     1.  Does the number of channels in the Sqlite database
> > matter?  I have 1,000 channels of which only 90 are marked as
> > "selected."  Should
> > >     I/can I delete the unused channels?
> > >     2. Does the number of channels in the mythtv database
> > matter?  I have 1,300 channels, of which 100 or so are marked as
> > "visible." Should
> > >     I/can I delete the unused channels?
> > >     3.  I noticed that the XMLTV download to /tmp had over 1
> > million lines, per "cat /tmp/xxx | wc".  That seems large.
> > > 
> > >     Which of these is possibly slowing me down?  I assume #1, so
> > I tried to delete "unselected" channels from the sqlite database,
> > but they got
> > >     reloaded later.  I can't recall what command I ran that
> > caused the reload, or if this was automatic and unavoidable. 
> > Thoughts?
> > > 
> > > 
> > >     Larry
> > > 
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> > > 
> > > 
> > > As recommended, I've upgraded: the O/S is LTS 20.04.4, MariaDB is
> > 10.3.34, and Mythtv is V31 w/fixes.  XMLTV module is version 0.6.1
> > and 
> > > tv_grab_zz_sdjson_sqlite is version 1.66.
> > > 
> > > However, mythfilldatabase still takes over 6 hours daily.  Can
> > anyone say if this is normal?  Top shows a low level of CPU for all
> > related 
> > > processes.
> > > 
> > > One side effect of all this is the database wait timeout issue
> > that nukes the upcoming recordings.  I think I've addressed that
> > with a global 
> > > change to bump up the default 8hour timeout. Time will tell.
> > > 
> > > Here is a snippet of the log showing where mythfilldatabase spent
> > time:
> > > 
> > > 2022-06-13 01:01:15.313333 I  Cardutil: HDHomeRun Cablecard
> > Present.
> > > 2022-06-13 01:01:15.333400 I  Cardutil: HDHomeRun Cablecard
> > Present.
> > > 2022-06-13 01:01:15.353206 I  Cardutil: HDHomeRun Cablecard
> > Present.
> > > 2022-06-13 07:33:51.007237 I  Updated programs: 5891 Unchanged
> > programs: 32563
> > > 2022-06-13 07:33:51.865934 N  Data fetching complete.
> > > 2022-06-13 07:33:51.866108 I  Adjusting program database end
> > times.
> > > 2022-06-13 07:33:53.149755 I      0 replacements made
> > > 
> > > I can add more logging if anyone has suggestions on what to look
> > for.  I just can't see why this process should take more than 15
> > minutes to 
> > > perform a daily incremental change.
> > 
> > I recall your saying you have 100ish channels marked as selected in
> > the SQLite DB.
> > 
> > Is there exactly one SchedulesDirect.DB file? locate
> > SchedulesDirect.DB
> > finds all files of that name in *buntu at least.
> > 
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i believe so. there are mysql tuning utils around -- mysqltuner,
tuning-primer. etc. you can email me if you want my server cnf settings
file. i am on arch linux and they maybe in a different location for
ubuntu, but i use mariadb. 
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