[mythtv-users] Deinterlacing quality - where's the difference?

Mark Kendall mark.kendall at gmail.com
Thu Nov 19 10:01:46 UTC 2020


On Wed, 18 Nov 2020 at 13:31, James Abernathy <jfabernathy at gmail.com> wrote:
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> I've been chasing a jitter problem, that while minor is very annoying to me.
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> My last test where I had the jitter was using the NVDEC profile, all hardware decode and deinterlacing, and High quality set on both single and double deinterlacing quality.
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> Still had a small amount of jitter but noticeable. So I changed the deinterlacing qualities to medium and the jitter went away.

I meant to follow up on that - glad you resolved it.

>  There was no noticeable difference to me in the video except the jitter is now gone. BTW, the hardware is Ryzen 5-3600, B550M motherboard, Nvidia GT-1030 fanless video card. OS is Linux Mint 20, Mythtv v0.31-118.
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> So that brings up the question, what quality changes when you change deinterlacing quality from high to medium to low?

With deinterlacing, there is traditionally a trade off between quality
and performance - i.e. the better deinterlacers will tax your hardware
more. There is also no magic bullet when deinterlacing (more so with
the lower quality ones) - some material looks better with certain
implementations (and quality is obviously subjective).

A lot of the hardware deinterlacers (VDPAU, NVDEC, VAAPI etc) are a
closed book - we don't really know what they are doing inside, though
we have a reasonable idea.

With reference to our own software and OpenGL deinterlacers, from
lower quality up (and hence increasing complexity):-

- the most basic deinterlacer is onefield/bob - which just takes the
current field and scales it to the full frame height. Simple and
effective (but introduces 'bobbing').
- linear blend - there are different approaches, but ours use the
current field and a linear interpolation of the lines above and below
for the 'non-current' field. Again fairly simple and cheap but less
bobbing.

- Note: both onefield and linear blend purely use the current frame.

- yadif (software) and kernel(opengl) both blend data from multiple
fields and lines to fill in the missing 'non-current' lines - more
computationally and memory intensive.

The above methods always deinterlace every pixel of every frame (or at
least every non-current field) and as a result there is some loss in
picture quality in static areas - the more advanced hardware
deinterlacers ('motion adaptive') will decide which areas of the
screen are static - and won't deinterlace them.  The best
deinterlacers will also estimate the direction of motion ('motion
compensated') to guide the code to pick the best pixels to interpolate
from. I've long toyed with adding a software version of the latter as
we can ask FFmpeg to export motion vectors when decoding - just not
sure it is worth the effort:)

Regards
Mark


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