[mythtv-users] HDPVR intermittent failure

DryHeat122 dryheat122 at gmail.com
Fri Jul 10 01:50:52 UTC 2020


On Thu, Jul 9, 2020, 6:44 PM DryHeat122 <dryheat122 at gmail.com> wrote:

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> On Thu, Jul 9, 2020, 6:35 PM John P Poet <jppoet at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> On Thu, Jul 9, 2020 at 7:26 PM DryHeat122 <dryheat122 at gmail.com> wrote:
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>>> On Thu, Jul 9, 2020, 6:18 PM John P Poet <jppoet at gmail.com> wrote:
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>>>> On Thu, Jul 9, 2020 at 7:12 PM DryHeat122 <dryheat122 at gmail.com> wrote:
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Jul 2, 2020, 6:00 PM DryHeat122 . <dryheat122 at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
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>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 2, 2020 at 6:53 AM Rick <rick at laity.ca> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 7/2/2020 10:35 AM, DryHeat122 . wrote:
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > On Thu, Jul 2, 2020, 5:08 AM Jim <lists at morton.hrcoxmail.com
>>>>>>> > <mailto:lists at morton.hrcoxmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >     On 7/1/2020 9:23 PM, DryHeat122 . wrote:
>>>>>>> >      >
>>>>>>> >      > On Sun, Jun 28, 2020 at 9:32 AM Greg <gregl at nycap.rr.com
>>>>>>> >     <mailto:gregl at nycap.rr.com>
>>>>>>> >      > <mailto:gregl at nycap.rr.com <mailto:gregl at nycap.rr.com>>>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> >      >
>>>>>>> >      >
>>>>>>> >      >     On 6/27/20 9:46 PM, DryHeat122 . wrote:
>>>>>>> >      >>     On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 12:59 PM DryHeat122 .
>>>>>>> >      >>     <dryheat122 at gmail.com <mailto:dryheat122 at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> >     <mailto:dryheat122 at gmail.com <mailto:dryheat122 at gmail.com>>>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> >      >>
>>>>>>> >      >>         On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 2:41 AM Stephen Worthington
>>>>>>> >      >>         <stephen_agent at jsw.gen.nz
>>>>>>> >     <mailto:stephen_agent at jsw.gen.nz> <mailto:
>>>>>>> stephen_agent at jsw.gen.nz
>>>>>>> >     <mailto:stephen_agent at jsw.gen.nz>>>
>>>>>>> >      >>         wrote:
>>>>>>> >      >>
>>>>>>> >      >>             On Sun, 10 May 2020 20:20:30 -0700, you wrote:
>>>>>>> >      >>
>>>>>>> >      >>             >On Sun, May 10, 2020, 7:58 PM Greg
>>>>>>> >     <gregl at nycap.rr.com <mailto:gregl at nycap.rr.com>
>>>>>>> >      >>             <mailto:gregl at nycap.rr.com
>>>>>>> >     <mailto:gregl at nycap.rr.com>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> >      >>
>>>>>>> >      >>             >Ok thanks I will investigate that.  But it's
>>>>>>> been
>>>>>>> >      >>             working fine with the
>>>>>>> >      >>             >current power source for like a year now, and
>>>>>>> others on
>>>>>>> >      >>             this list use it
>>>>>>> >      >>             >too.
>>>>>>> >      >>
>>>>>>> >      >>             <snip><https://forum.mythtv.org>
>>>>>>> >      >>
>>>>>>> >      >>
>>>>>>> >      >>         Thanks for all the suggestions.  I will
>>>>>>> investigate all of
>>>>>>> >      >>         them.  Something I do not see in here is an
>>>>>>> opinion that
>>>>>>> >     some
>>>>>>> >      >>         software problem could have evolved.  I was kind
>>>>>>> of thinking
>>>>>>> >      >>         of that as a possibility given that it worked fine
>>>>>>> for so
>>>>>>> >      >>         long then seems to be degrading.  OTOH I never
>>>>>>> thought
>>>>>>> >     of the
>>>>>>> >      >>         possibility that the USB connection could be
>>>>>>> degrading.  I'm
>>>>>>> >      >>         going to try Greg's connector, assuming I can get
>>>>>>> parts
>>>>>>> >      >>         during the Apocalypse.  Also, his link specifies
>>>>>>> Radio Shack
>>>>>>> >      >>         parts.  What's Radio Shack?!? ;-)
>>>>>>> >      >>
>>>>>>> >      >>
>>>>>>> >      >>     Well folks this is getting frustrating.  I addressed a
>>>>>>> possible
>>>>>>> >      >>     ventilation issue.  I also unplugged the power cord I
>>>>>>> had from
>>>>>>> >      >>     the Myth box USB and connected it to an old iPad
>>>>>>> charger
>>>>>>> >     rated at
>>>>>>> >      >>     5V/2A.  No help.  It wouldn't record anything, no
>>>>>>> matter how
>>>>>>> >     much
>>>>>>> >      >>     rebooting and power-cycling. So I concluded the HDPVR
>>>>>>> was hosed
>>>>>>> >      >>     and got a new one (more accurately, a replacement
>>>>>>> circuit board
>>>>>>> >      >>     for it).  Powered it with the same wall wart. Recorded
>>>>>>> great for
>>>>>>> >      >>     a day.  Just turned it on and I have failed recordings
>>>>>>> and it
>>>>>>> >      >>     won't respond when I try to manually play a channel.
>>>>>>> >     Reboot, and
>>>>>>> >      >>     it works fine, same pattern as before.
>>>>>>> >      >>
>>>>>>> >      >>     I finally got a molex connector and am still going to
>>>>>>> try what
>>>>>>> >      >>     Greg suggested, but I really don't think it's a power
>>>>>>> issue.
>>>>>>> >      >>     Apply makes good electronics and that wart has the
>>>>>>> same specs as
>>>>>>> >      >>     the power supply that comes with the HDPVR.  The HDPCR
>>>>>>> isn't
>>>>>>> >      >>     overheating.  It's not the HDPVR itself.  That only
>>>>>>> leaves the
>>>>>>> >      >>     software on the myth box.  Anyone have ideas how to
>>>>>>> troubleshoot
>>>>>>> >      >>     that?
>>>>>>> >      >>
>>>>>>> >      >>
>>>>>>> >      >      The next time it won't record,try to cat it and see if
>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>> >      >     responds.  This is the command I use,  cat /dev/video0
>>>>>>> > test ..
>>>>>>> >      >     dmesg for the proper port it's connected to. This may
>>>>>>> help
>>>>>>> >     too see
>>>>>>> >      >     if it is the software or not..
>>>>>>> >      >
>>>>>>> >      >     I am curious were you got the motherboard? There used
>>>>>>> to be a
>>>>>>> >      >     place in Ohio (I believe) ,but they have gone out of
>>>>>>> business.
>>>>>>> >      >
>>>>>>> >      > It failed again (despite putting the conf file in place).
>>>>>>> Here's
>>>>>>> >     the
>>>>>>> >      > result:
>>>>>>> >      >
>>>>>>> >      > steve at steve-EP45-UD3P:~$ cat /dev/video0 > test.ts
>>>>>>> >      > cat: /dev/video0: Input/output error
>>>>>>> >      >
>>>>>>> >      > I don't know how to "dmesg for the proper port it's
>>>>>>> connected
>>>>>>> >     to."  I
>>>>>>> >      > think it's just connected to a USB port, but I don't know
>>>>>>> how to
>>>>>>> >     find
>>>>>>> >      > out which one. Can you be more specific?
>>>>>>> >      >
>>>>>>> >      >
>>>>>>> >     This works on my system
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >     dmesg | grep pvr
>>>>>>> >     [    6.231302] hdpvr 2-2:1.0: firmware version 0x15 dated Jun
>>>>>>> 17 2010
>>>>>>> >     09:26:53
>>>>>>> >     [    6.452748] hdpvr 2-2:1.0: device now attached to video0
>>>>>>> >     [    6.452844] usbcore: registered new interface driver hdpvr
>>>>>>> >     docbuntu:~$
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > Ok next time it crashes I will try that.
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think the latest firmware is 0x1e from 2012. Probably won't make a
>>>>>>> difference though but you never know.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It crashed again.  Same result when I try to cat /dev/video0:
>>>>>> input/output error
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Here is what dmesg says:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> steve at steve-EP45-UD3P:~$ dmesg | grep pvr
>>>>>> [   12.937541] hdpvr 2-6:1.0: firmware version 0x14 dated May 12 2010
>>>>>> 10:29:31
>>>>>> [   12.937544] hdpvr 2-6:1.0: untested firmware, the driver might not
>>>>>> work.
>>>>>> [   13.152225] hdpvr 2-6:1.0: device now attached to video0
>>>>>> [   13.152252] usbcore: registered new interface driver hdpvr
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So it seems I do not have the latest device driver.  I doubt this is
>>>>>> the problem as it was working fine for years with the existing device
>>>>>> driver and I've not updated anything else.  But can't hurt to try.  How to
>>>>>> install?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I looked into this and realized it was about firmware, which
>>>>> apparently can't be updated without hooking up to Windows. I don't think
>>>>> it's worth it because like I said it worked with the firmware it's got for
>>>>> quite some time.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm out of ideas. Can you guys think of anything?  I'm thinking I will
>>>>> need to just rebuild my machine with a fresh install of the lastest Ubuntu
>>>>> and see if that helps.  I've been getting this "system software problem
>>>>> detected" popup a lot. Maybe that has something to do with it.
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>> The first generation HD-PVR was extremely sensitive to the USB port it
>>>> was plugged into. Basically did not work at all when plugged into USB3, and
>>>> was picky about the USB2 chipset as well. The only thing you have probably
>>>> not tried yet, is buying a USB2 add-on card to see if that helps. I don't
>>>> think it will, but if you are desperate to keep your HD-PVR working, then
>>>> that is the only thing I can think of.
>>>>
>>>> Your experience pretty much mirrors mine from a few years ago. My first
>>>> generation HD-PVRs slowly got less and less reliable over time. That is
>>>> what gave me the motivation to get the second generation HD-PVR working
>>>> with Myth.
>>>>
>>>> John
>>>>
>>> I thought the HDPVR2 was not Myth compatible.  Has that changed?
>>>
>>>>
>>  https://github.com/jpoet/HauppaugeUSB
>>
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> Thanks!
>

Are you jpoet?  Wow.  That is not for the inexperienced or faint of heart
to install and configure. It scares me a little :-) I can't imagine what it
was like to develop it!

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