[mythtv-users] Is Nvidia Shield the future for Mythtv Frontend??

[Greg Oliver]

On Wed, Dec 26, 2018 at 9:41 PM David Engel <david at istwok.net> wrote:

> On Wed, Dec 26, 2018 at 05:06:53PM -0600, Greg Oliver wrote:
> > On Wed, Dec 26, 2018 at 4:49 PM David Engel <david at istwok.net> wrote:
> >
> > > On Wed, Dec 26, 2018 at 04:16:24PM -0600, Greg Oliver wrote:
> > > > On Wed, Dec 26, 2018 at 4:02 PM David Engel <david at istwok.net>
> wrote:
> > > > > Note that you only need one keyboard configured per hub.  Just
> include
> > > > > it in any activity that needs it.  For example, on one of my hubs,
> I
> > > > > have a Shield, FireTV Stick 4k and a ChromeBox and have the same
> > > > > keyboard device included in each device activity.  The keyboard
> > > > > actions always get sent to whatever bluetooth device you are
> connected
> > > > > to.
> > > >
> > > > I am not sure what you mean here.  How can the single hub talk BT to
> any
> > > > device just by being included in it's activity?  They must be paired
> > > > individually.  I currently have my Hub paired with my linux frontend,
> > > > Windows10 Surface Book Pro and my Shield.  Of course they all show
> the
> > > > Harmony Keyboard entry, but it is in fact connected to them all
> > > separately
> > > > and simultaneously.  Care to explain more what you described?
> > >
> > > You still have to pair the hub with each, "main", device.  For
> > > example, my hub is individually paired with my Shield, Stick and
> > > ChrhomeBox.  The keyboard does not need to be paired and, in fact,
> > > can't be paired with anything.  It just auto-magically works with
> > > whatever, paired device is currently connected.  When I press a button
> > > bound to a keyboard action while my Shield activity is active, they
> > > key gets sent to the shield.  If I switch to the Stick activity, the
> > > key gets send to the Stick.  The same goes for the ChromeBox.
> > >
> > >
> > Ahh, I got you - you are referring to an actual keyboard, not the logical
> > HarmonyKeyboard the hub emits to the devices.  Re-reading your email
> > actually says that!
> >
> > I'm a little slow today - too many holiday drinks and my liver is asking
> > why it stopped today :)
> >
> > So this brings a new question - I never knew you could add a BT keyboard
> to
> > the hub and use it's keypresses with the remote - that is pretty slick -
> I
> > will definitely re-work my hub to do that as soon as I get the original
> > circle key figured out later.
>
> No, sorry, you don't have it yet.  I realize the unusual usage can be
> difficult to grasp.  Once you do, however, I think it will make
> perfect sense.  It does to my engineering mind, anyway.
>
> Please try the following steps with your hub.  Note that this assumes
> you have already configured your Shield as an Nvidia Shield/Gaming
> Console with it's limited button support.
>
> 1. Steps to create the keyboard device.
> ---------------------------------------
>
> Switch to the Devices tab.
>
> Choose Edit Devices.
>
> Choose + (Add) Device.
>
> Choose Computer.
>
> Choose Windows.
>
> Choose > (Next).
>
> Choose > (Next).
>
> Choose No (Don't create activity)
>
> Choose Edit Devices.
>
> Choose Windows Computer.
>
> Change the name to Windows Keyboard.
>
> Choose X (Done).
>
> 2. Steps to add the keyboard device to the activity.
> ----------------------------------------------------
>
> Switch to the Activities tab.
>
> Choose Edit Activities.
>
> Choose the Shield activity.
>
> Choose Re-Run Activity.
>
> Check the box for Windows Keyboard.
>
> Choose > (Next).
>
> Choose > (Next).
>
> Finish setting up the activity normally.
>
> 3. Steps to customize the remote buttons.
> -----------------------------------------
>
> Switch to the Activities tab.
>
> Choose Edit Activities.
>
> Choose the Shield activity.
>
> Choose Customize Remote.
>
> Choose a button to customize.
>
> Choose Short Press.
>
> Choose Device.
>
> Here's where the magic finally happens.  You'll have the option of
> choosing your Shield device, TV, audio device and maybe others.
> You'll also have the option of choosing the new, Windows Keyboard
> device.
>
> Choose Windows Keyboard.
>
> Choose Command.
>
> Choose one of the many keyboard commands.  If you had instead chosen
> the Shield device above, you would have only had a very limited number
> of Shield commands to choose from here.
>
> Choose > (Next).
>
> Choose > (Next).
>
> Finish customizing any other remote buttons.
>
> 4. Re-use the Windows Keyboard device with other activities.
> ------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Repeat steps 2 and 3 with another activity.
>
> What you have effectively done is created an artificial, virtual
> device with the full set of keyboard actions that you can add to any
> activity.  Whenever you customize a button to send an action from that
> device, the hub will actually send it to the bluetooth device already
> paired for that activity.
>
> The advantage you gain from doing all of this is that you can still
> access any custom actions that your real device might support in
> addition to all fo the standard, keyboard actions.  If your real
> device doesn't have any custom actions, then you haven't gained
> anything.  If it does, however, you would have lost those actions had
> you originally configured your hub to treat the device as a just a
> plain, old computer.
>
>
I have done this over and over again now and even talked to Logi support
today - they told me it will not work unless I pair the Windows PC via
bluetooth, but I have to sort of disagree with them since the full keyboard
is now available in the Shield Activity and I can type with it.  It is not
available without this device in the activity, so I know it works.

The remote always provides the dreaded "You must use the Harmony App to
pair this device" message every time I press a button provisioned for the
Windows Keyboard.

I have factory reset everything several times to no avail.  Anyone run
inito this and knw how to get around it?  Like I said, the app works as
described, but the remote displays the pair message (and yes, I have paired
with Menu+Mute several times as well) over and over no matter what I do.

TiA,

Greg



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> david at istwok.net
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