[mythtv-users] Windows 10 - Kodi using MythTV API
Greg Oliver
oliver.greg at gmail.com
Wed Oct 31 02:13:49 UTC 2018
On Sat, Oct 27, 2018 at 3:51 AM Richard Lane <lists at timeforabrew.com> wrote:
> ---- On Fri, 26 Oct 2018 17:32:22 +0100 Greg Oliver <oliver.greg at gmail.com>
> wrote ----
>
> > On Thu, Oct 25, 2018 at 12:48 PM Mike Bibbings <mike.bibbings at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > On 25/10/2018 17:52, Greg Oliver wrote:
> > On Thu, Oct 25, 2018 at 2:23 AM Tom Harris <
> thom.j.harris at gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 4:55 PM Greg Oliver <
> oliver.greg at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I was recently given a Surface Pro 3, so I
> did like everyone would do and bought a $25 dock
> for it and turned it into a MythTV frontend :)
> >
> > Then I got to thinking - since only my Roku
> (it is currently a 100% Linux house) allows me
> to play back episodes on all of my pay channels'
> apps, I though - why not try Windows 10 - it
> has tiles that are easily navigated with a
> remote control and all of those channel apps
> are also available there. I never made it
> that far. The dock ethernet is Gigabit and
> gets every bit of it, but kodi's skip forward
> and back is noticeable to the point of unusable
> (it takes seconds to go back and forth a
> minute). An android nvidia shield is instant
> with kodi doing the same thing. I am just
> dumbfounded how something 10x faster and with
> much greater resources than the shield is so much
> faster.
> >
> > I could not find anything related on the web,
> so am asking here if anyone else has experienced
> and overcome this?
> >
> > I’m not 100% sure we’re talking about the same
> thing, but from my experience:
> >
> > The default Kodi settings have a delay before
> acting on the skip ahead/back commands. Kodi has
> logic for multiple keypresses jumping father (e.g. i
> click = 20 sec, 2 = 1 minute, 3 = 5 minutes) so it
> delays to see if more clicks are coming. For a
> MythTV user accustomed to instant action this is
> really annoying.
> >
> > In System -> Video -> Playback you can tweak these settings. Change
> ’Skip Delay’ to 0 for a much more responsive UI.
> > (I wrote up a few observations when I first set
> up Kodi. Mailing list link:
> http://lists.mythtv.org/pipermail/mythtv-users/2015-November/383134.html )
> >
> >
> > Thanks for the tip, but I just tried that (it was set to
> 750ms) and it still behaves the same (although a little time is
> shaved obviously). My nVidia shields are pretty instant - I
> will check one of those to see what those settings are (I
> never changed them). I get the spinner for close to a second
> on each jump.
> >
> > Oh well, I guess I will start digging into Windows settings
> trying to hunt it down (or search Kodi forums, etc)..
> >
> >
> > As well as changing "skip delay" to 0 , try changing "skip steps"
> e.g. I have only -30 sec and 30 sec set, which works fine for me in
> LiveTV and recordings
> >
> > Mike.
> >
> >
> > I'm not sure how Kodi works behind the scenes, but I am currently using
> miracast to get the output to the TV until the mini-dp --> hdmi adapter
> shows up. If it is like anything else that casts, I should see display
> issues rather than network latency, but I am not. I will wait until I test
> with it cabled to a TV before I go digging any further - it will be here
> today and I'll test some more.
> >
> > -Greg
> >
> >
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>
> Kodis skip performance was one of the reasons I went back to mythfrontend.
> Most of my recordings have several minutes run-in and so the kids typically
> bash skip forward several times as soon as starting a recording, and then
> skip back a bit. Mythfrontend copes with this, even on the Pi2. Kodi on the
> Pi2 doesn't, and even when its accessing a recording directly on the same
> machine its stored it wasnt much better. The skipskipskipskip would cause
> kodi to sit and think for long enough to frustrate the kids, and a
> skipskipskipskip-backskip-backskip would often outright crash kodi.
> Changing the buffer settings seemed to help a bit but not enough to be
> called stable. I also set 'skip delay' to 0 and 'skip steps' to
> -30sec,+1min only, to reflect our mythtv settings as we simply couldnt get
> to grips with using skip steps in kodis default configuration.
>
> So not so much a solution but a 'you're not going mad, here too.'
>
> Interestingly, running kodi on my xbox one accessing the same content is
> much more stable, as you've found with the Shield. It does seem that Kodis
> broad brush (runs on everything) leads to a very high YMMV factor.
So using the DP2 <--> HDMI adapter did clean it up quite a bit, and setting
the delay to 0 of course made the most difference. It now immediately
skips up to 2 presses with no noticeable delay. Anything more and it
spins, but it is considerably less. Thanks for the tuning tips - I had
configured the shields so long ago, I forgot all about those screens.
The intel graphics output is also noticeably worse than the nVidia picture
I have grown accustomed to. The colors are a little more washed out and
the output of 1080p movies is just not as fantastic as I have become
accustomed to (single strands of hair blowing in the wind are less
discernible for example).
I was just excited about having a free and powerful tablet to use, but I
guess I will sell it. I cannot go backward on quality - it would be like
trading down on a car when you do not need to save the money :)
Thanks again for the comments,
Greg
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