[mythtv-users] Desperate: Help with ir-keytable and IguanaIR

Sun Jan 7 17:01:47 UTC 2018

On Sun, Jan 7, 2018 at 9:28 AM, Tom Dexter <digitalaudiorock at gmail.com>
wrote:

> On Sat, Jan 6, 2018 at 10:10 PM, Greg Oliver <oliver.greg at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > On Sat, Jan 6, 2018 at 7:00 PM, Tom Dexter <digitalaudiorock at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 7:55 PM, Tom Dexter <digitalaudiorock at gmail.com
> >
> >> wrote:
> >> > On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 5:52 PM, Tom Dexter <
> digitalaudiorock at gmail.com>
> >> > wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> I give with these things. The ebay seller I got this from sent me
> >> >> another one of these and it's just as void of any life as the first
> >> >> one...again, even testing with the Windows stuff as described above.
> >> >> If knows the device is there but simply isn't getting anything from
> >> >> any remotes.
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> > OMG...I emailed Iguanaworks support with the details and got a reply
> >> > which may have answered all of this...though I'm waiting for another
> >> > reply confirming this.
> >> >
> >> > It's looking like I may have received the wrong unit. That is rather
> >> > than this, with a built-in receiver:
> >> >
> >> > https://www.iguanaworks.net/products/usb-ir-transceiver/
> >> >
> >> > ...it appears I may have received this, which has NO receiver at all
> >> > and works with a wired receiver:
> >> >
> >> > https://www.iguanaworks.net/products/usb-ir-transceiver/
> socket-receive/
> >> >
> >> > Unless you look into the end of the thing with a light, they look
> >> > basically identical. Again...waiting for another reply to confirm but
> >> > I'm almost sure that's what happened. For the love of all that is holy
> >> > anyway...
> >> >
> >> > Tom
> >>
> >> Wow I don't know what it is with me an IR receivers but this one just
> >> keeps getting worse.
> >>
> >> I verified for sure that I have the Iguanaworks "socket receiver"
> >> which is intended to have a wired receiver plugged into the 1/8 jack
> >> farthest from the USB plug. I bought a wired receiver on ebay that
> >> took a month and  a half to arrive from China and it didn't work...not
> >> even testing with the Windows igclient. It behaved just like it did
> >> when I was trying to use it without a receiver. At that point I
> >> assumed that the wired receiver may have been wired differently (the
> >> support folks at Iguanaworks mentioned that that was a 50/50 shot), so
> >> I ordered a wired receiver from Iganaworks. I got that today and STILL
> >> no luck at all. I even have two of the USB units still (as I was
> >> shipped a second from the ebay seller) and no luck with either one.
> >>
> >> Under both Linux and Windows it's the same. The unit itself is seen
> >> but gets no input. Just plain crazy.
> >>
> >> What concerns me is that, which nVidia dropping support for 32 bit
> >> operating systems, a time will come where I'll need to replace my old
> >> frontend (which has a very reliable serial port receiver), and I
> >> simply can NOT find a USB IR that works. Beyond insane.
> >>
> >> As I've mentioned before I have an MCE receiver that works, but has so
> >> much lag and is so unreliable as to be unusable, and now I'm at a
> >> total brick wall with this. Just insane.
> >>
> >> Tom
> >
> >
> > I know you do not like the lag on MCE usb stuff, but I have several of
> these
> > receivers:
> >
> > GP-IR02BK(TSES-IR18)
> >
> > That's the model number on it.  I never knew IR could be faster - it is
> no
> > more laggy than a remote that comes with my TVs controlling the TVs
> > themselves.  And of course MythTV running on a quad core i7 will
> obviously
> > feel faster than any "rented" provider's piece of equipment no matter how
> > laggy the IR feels to you :)
> >
> > I have never had anything else to compare with though....
> >
> > I have used these units since 2009 or 2010 since I started using MythTV
> - I
> > cannot recall ever missing a keypress.  The remotes that come with them
> are
> > crap, but I use harmonies with Windows Media Center as the type in the
> > Harmony software.  I just switched most frontends to nVidia Shields, so
> they
> > are decommissioned, but if you can still find that model number
> somewhere -
> > they work well for me (my TV still uses one).  I velcro(ed) them to the
> > bottoms of the TVs and they have 2 IR blaster ports that I assume just
> > repeat whatever they receive - I have never used them.
> >
> > Of course if your Iguana fiasco doesn't pan out - that is weird - must be
> > something with USB.  Does your motherboard have the serial header that
> you
> > could get the DB9 cable and use actual serial?  I know the latest board I
> > bought still had it, but have also seen new ones without the header at
> all..
> >
> > If you have a /dev/ttyS0, etc - then you may have the header too.  I
> cannot
> > imagine them putting a 232 (or more advanced) chip on the board without
> > adding the header.  RS232 has no loopback signals, so with or without
> being
> > cabled up, you should still see it if it is active in BIOS or EFI.
> >
> >
>
> Thanks for the reply! Actually my current situation is that I'm still
> using my old x86 frontend which has an RS232 serial port. I was
> without my serial IR for a while but was able to fix a broken solder
> joint on it, so I'm fine with that for now. I've been mostly trying to
> determine the best option once I need to go USB, and it's been grim.
> With that Iguana, I'm hoping I can possibly return the wired receiver,
> plus the USB units I have and have them tell me if any of it works, as
> I'm at a complete impasse...insane. With both USB units (which are
> recognized by the OS) I get no data testing on this Linux machine or
> two different Windows 10 machines.
>
> I'd love to find one of the MCE receivers you're talking about. The
> one I bought has no visible model and looks like this one:
>
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/Inteset-USB-External-Infrared-
> IR-Media-Center-Receiver-with-Cable-NEW/172971805481
>
> This is what the kernel sees:
>
> [962933.888618] rc rc1: Media Center Ed. eHome Infrared Remote
> Transceiver (1934:5168) as
> /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1e.0/0000:02:02.0/usb5/5-1/5-1:1.0/rc/rc1
> [962933.888703] input: Media Center Ed. eHome Infrared Remote
> Transceiver (1934:5168) as
> /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1e.0/0000:02:02.0/usb5/5-1/5-
> 1:1.0/rc/rc1/input29
> [962934.038551] mceusb 5-1:1.0: Registered FINTEK eHome Infrared
> Transceiver with mce emulator interface version 2
> [962934.038556] mceusb 5-1:1.0: 0 tx ports (0x0 cabled) and 2 rx
> sensors (0x1 active)
>
> If I search for that GP-IR02BK(TSES-IR18) it appears that the
> GP-IR02BK part is a model for an actual MCE remote control(?). Can't
> find much on that.
>
> Thanks again
> Tom
>

And while I have all of the required hardware, I have not set it up this
way yet, but in case you have or want to get a harmony remote that is
harmony hub compatible, this is recommended by several long time users:

https://lists.gt.net/mythtv/users/614015

Apparently it is keyboard fast.

Refurb stuff can be had on Amazon fairly cheap (well cheaper) that new.  I
recently had an Ultimate One die and replaced it with:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01F5TT510/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1

it is cheaper than the Prontos I used to buy, but that was back in the
early 2000's when there was not much competition other than 6 device
programmables..

The Harmonies are definitely nice if you want to drop the cash.  The only
complain I have about the one I just bought (and Logitech is going to
publish code to fix it (so they told me)) is that the activities and device
"buttons" are on the touch screen.  I am a button feeler, so my thumb
constantly goes past the top most hard buttons and presses those putting
this model into one of those screens.

I told them I was going to send it back and get the older version of "One"
I had prior and they told me to wait, there would be a software fix to
allow me to move those button via software.  It has been 3 months, so I am
going to email them now and see what's up..
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