[mythtv-users] upgrading from mythbuntu 14.04/0.27 to 0.28 vs. mythbuntu 16.04 install

[Jim Abernathy]

On 11/29/2016 11:29 AM, Stephen Worthington wrote:
> On Tue, 29 Nov 2016 15:52:09 +0000, you wrote:
>
>>
>> On 11/27/2016 10:40 AM, Stephen Worthington wrote:
>>> On Sun, 27 Nov 2016 12:29:33 +0000, you wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 11/26/2016 08:56 PM, Stephen Worthington wrote:
>>>>> On Sat, 26 Nov 2016 22:19:39 +0000, you wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>> ______
>> so if I start with Mythbuntu 16.04 do I have to still mess with systemd??
>> My test last summer with it worked fine in my setup except for the bug
>> in mythtranscode which has now been fixed.
>>
>> I must be missing something.
>>
>> Jim A
> Yes, if you are using network tuners, or external frontends, then you
> need the NetworkManager-wait-online.service fix.  And if you have
> tuners that are slow to start up because of firmware loading, then you
> need the fix for that.  Systemd starts things up faster and much more
> in parallel than upstart did.  So it will start mythbackend before the
> network is fully up and before the tuners are fully up, if you just
> use the default .service file.  That results in it not finding all its
> tuners and not being accessible to external frontends, as mythbackend
> does not ever check again for critical resources that are not present
> when it starts up.  If mythbackend is not being started at boot, then
> there is no problem.  And you can always shut it down and restart it
> and it will work fine.  So in your testing, did you get it all set up
> and running, then do a shutdown and reboot?  If so, it would not have
> been running properly after the reboot.
Thanks for the explanation.  I'll do a test build system and run it 
awhile before I put it into production.  Seems like it's worth it for 
this change.  I have the 0.28 Mythtv update working in production now, 
so it's just a 14.04 to 16.04 change now.

Jim A

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