[mythtv-users] OT Any interest in HDMI --> IP TV x264 encoder boxes?

[Gary Buhrmaster]

On Mon, Aug 15, 2016 at 11:40 PM, Another Sillyname
<anothersname at googlemail.com> wrote:
> @Gary
>
> Of course you're entitled to your opinion, but making statements
> suggesting embargoed at import without supportable facts is
> irresponsible.

It *has* happened to others importing commercial devices
that violate the laws of the land.

Now, do all items get embargoed, certainly not, because
customs does not check every package (and if they did,
nothing would make it into the country).  Will anything you
import into the US get embargoed, no idea, and I never
said it would.  I said it could.  Which is factually correct.

> Or are you suggesting that Amazon are breaking the law?
>
> https://www.amazon.com/TBS%C2%AE2216-Encoder-Broadcast-Teaching-Conference/dp/B01AU7RHRQ

Amazon is not the importer there.  That is a very important
difference (in the eyes of the law).  When the rights holder
reports the infringement, Amazon will remove the product
(as they have for many other products of this form).  It is
common that when one (re)seller gets banned another pops
up under a new name with a slightly different wording on the
product to see how long they get to keep selling.  It is
whack-a-mole, but they keep playing.  I have seen some
re-sellers last for what seems like years, and others
disappear in (what seems to be) weeks for items that (at
least from a casual scan) looked identical.

>> Had you asked simply for it to be moved off the list I'd have acceded
> and politely, in future please don't make implied threats such as
> members email addresses are going to be captured and the copyright
> swat teams are likely to be kicking in their front doors, it's
> unbecoming.

I made no threats, I pointed out facts.  You and others are
free to draw your conclusions and decide your risk profiles,
but one should at least be aware of the possibilities if
one had not considered them.  We have seen that others
in the industry are constantly looking for examples to be
made (Rightscorp is currently looking to expand after a
recent large ($25 Million) court win in the US).  And MythTV
has been subject to previous assertions of malfeasance by
the industry (and the industry never forgets the NYTimes
article "Steal this show").  I think it is not unreasonable to
imagine that the project continues to be on the radar of
some.

It would appear that you failed to fully internalize
and follow rule #5 in the section of the wiki article
about email etiquette:

https://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Mailing_List_etiquette#Anything_else_I_should_be_aware_of.3F


> I'll set up an off list email address tomorrow and allow people that
> want to pursue this to do so there.

Thank you.