[mythtv-users] The future of Mythbuntu ISOs

[Hika van den Hoven]

Hoi Thomas,

Saturday, October 24, 2015, 1:35:00 AM, you wrote:

> On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 3:33 PM jedi <jedi at mishnet.org> wrote:

>> On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 01:32:41PM -0500, Ben Kamen wrote:
>> > On 2015-10-23 11:19 AM, Kirk Bocek wrote:
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >Although there *was* a village in the late 1800s in western Russia that
>> attempted to launch a blintz into orbit. Experts think the attempt had more
>> to do with the effects of the nearby lead mine.
>>
>>    Russians don't lauch blintzes, they launch blini.
>>
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> First, I'd like to thank everyone for the responses. I didn't expect such a
> large amount of emails that I'd have to read through. I'll try to answer
> all the questions here, but please let me know if I missed any.

>> What help would you need to continue with the ISO? What's involved in
> testing?

> Anyone helping with testing needs to be able to

>    - Write good bug reports (I can explain if necessary)
>    - Be able to test without a clear set of instructions. In the past,
>    we've had a fairly limited amount of testing we do on the ISOs. I'd like to
>    get a more robust set of tests that someone can perform (or just test more
>    installation options.

> Ideally, you would know a bit of Python, as that is what most of our
> software is written in, however anyone familiar with even the basic setup
> of MythTV or Ubuntu based installs should be able to help out in some form.

> Testing itself doesn't need to be on bare metal (it can be in a VM), but at
> some point we'll need to test a scratch to fully setup and recording
> install (although this could easily be done in a VM was well)

> Things we could use help on

>    - Testing new ISO installs (this is what we need to be able to continue
>    doing ISOs). This also needs to test SystemD type things since that is new
>    (to us) in 16.04.
>    - Testing upgrades from 14.04
>    - Testing of Mythbuntu control centre
>    - Testing of the Mythbuntu theme
>    - Our MythTV setup guide
>    - Fixing and/or Triaging bugs (basically working with bug submitters to
>    ensure there is enough information available to actually work on the bug)
>    - Theming stuff including quality assurance. (Theming it's that
>    difficult, however I don't use all the parts of MythTV so some things in
>    the Mythbuntu theme are probably broken)

> Our ties are close with Ubuntu, so anything that someone does to assist us
> benefits Ubuntu users as well.

>> Would it not be easier to just keep up with the LTS versions of Ubuntu?

> As others have already mentioned, we already do LTS only.

>> I would be sad to see if the PPA's go away because myth was painful to
> compile.

> The PPA's won't be going away. That is actually one of the processes that
> is fairly automated.

>> I am not familiar with Ubuntu server, but I would be interested in seeing
> the steps required to recreate a mythbuntu-like install.

> The steps to do this are actually fairly easy (a great thing about how
> Ubuntu is built). A quick step back, with any flavor of Ubuntu, you're able
> to switch to a different flavor (including Mythbuntu) by doing 'apt-get
> install <FLAVOR>-desktop'. I mention Ubuntu Server, as that is a very
> basic, command line only install. So the steps would be to install Ubuntu
> Server, then do 'apt-get install mythbuntu-desktop' (this would install
> some XFCE stuff, Mythbuntu control center, etc, but not MythTV), then you
> would fire up the Mythbuntu Control Center and select the type of MythTV
> install you want (eg. backend only, frontend only, etc) and it would
> install the necessary packages for you. It's possible that we could create
> some form of script that would do this straight away from the command line
> as well.

> Thanks,

> Thomas Mashos
> Mythbuntu Developer

I'm a gentoo girl. But I like to see continuance in this field. I like
to help were I can. But I see mentioning of systemd.
Open rc is very much alife and if this project goes to open rc I will
assist. systemd reeks to me to much like ms. I tried it and it hated
me.

Tot mails,
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