[mythtv-users] Frontend for Apple TV 4

[jedi]

On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 12:42:49PM -0500, Tom Bongiorno wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 11:51 AM, jedi <jedi at mishnet.org> wrote:
> 
> > On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 09:54:42AM -0500, Tom Bongiorno wrote:
> > > On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 6:37 AM, Simon Hobson <linux at thehobsons.co.uk>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > jedi <jedi at mishnet.org> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Apple's apparent
> > > > > hostility to MPEG2 has always intrigued me.
> > > >
> > > > Really simple and short answer - they don't give a **** because that
> > > > doesn't earn them anything !
> > > >
> > > > Remember that Apple long since abandoned all but a pretence about it
> > being
> > > > about "the customer" - now it's clear that the whole strategy is about
> > > > proprietary systems, customer locking, walled gardens, and taking a
> > slice
> > > > (30%) of everything the user spends.
> > > >
> > > > Perhaps I'm just getting cynical, but I get the impression that any
> > > > ability they offer to access "your own stuff" is incidental and only
> > > > allowed grudgingly on the basis that they can't get away with not
> > > > supporting it (yet).
> >
> > [deletia]
> >
> > >
> > > You are correct, you are getting cynical. Again, none of the low power
> > > streaming devices natively support MPEG2 for good reason. None of the
> > > streaming services, that they were created to serve, stream in MPEG2. And
> >
> >     That's a stupid reason. That ingores one of the original use cases
> > for home video, namely creating your own content. People already have
> > stuff. These aren't even terribly geeky people. They have it because
> > previous generations of devices used those old formats.
> >

[deletia]

> 
> Outside of our niche group, MythTV users and the like, who is creating
> their own MPEG2 content?

     Anyone with an older camera or phone. There are plenty of rubes that can
point a camera and hit the record button. Even if they've moved on to "newer
and flashier" devices, they are still likely have old stuff that now might as 
well be on VHS tape. 

     It's easy to forsee a time when h264 is treated as a marginal legacy
format for similar reasons.