[mythtv-users] Time Warner encrypting everything. HDHR Prime with CableCard unable to record anything.

[Raymond Boettcher]

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhh, and the age old question finally comes up!  Is the stream actually encrypted or is there a "Flag" on the stream that simply says, you should not do that.  I think the flag MythTV is looking for is "Record Freely..."

See, this is exactly why I don't have cable.  Anyhow, why would Windows Media Player be authorized to record those channels and not MythTV?  That's like saying MythTV can't play DVD's because they are encrypted, but that didn't stop people from writing libraries to make such encryption, decryptable...  If Windows Media Player can do it stock out of the box and Micro$oft is a company with billions of dollars not under pursuit of the FCC, there shouldn't be any reason why MythTV can't do it as well.  Cable Companies like Time Warner are going to do this.  Yet, their own DVR Recorders are permitted to record prime stations such as HBO...  What makes the Cable Companies DVR equipment legal to record copyrighted material, or Tivo for that matter?  Why would I spend $250+ on a Tivo or RePlay TV Device if they were useless on any major Cable Companies TV Network.

There is no recourse in writing such software.  Like Torrents, DVD Rippers, or firearms.  It's the person who uses it wrong that gets into trouble.  If you decide to take said recording and distribute it, sell it, etc.  You are obviously in trouble.  But taking the hard drive out of a Tivo or even the Cable Companies DVR equipment to get a hold of such a recording is also not out of the question either.  So using the Cable Companies DVR doesn't make the recording any less secure.
Anyhow, I quote the follow sources:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copy_Control_Information
"In regard to Windows Media Center, shows marked Copy Once can only be played on the same PC in which they were recorded and the directly connected Extenders for Media Center like the XBOX 360—ATI Digital Cable Tuner must be running firmware 1.19.12 or Copy Freely is treated like Copy Once."
Where another instance of Mythfrontend on a different PC using the same network is no different than using a XBOX 360 as an "extender."
   
And my final quote...  "Some operators tend to set all programs as Copy Once, preventing further distribution after a single PVR recording, and others tend to set all programs as Copy Freely."
Anyhow, this is really my underline argument when it comes to recording Live TV.  I know that many developers monitor this stream and this is something that has kinda bugged me for a long time.  I really think the flag should be changed to "Copy Once."  Anyhow, just my 2 pennies...
-RayRay-
     From: Bob Sully <rcs at malibyte.net>
 To: mythtv-users at mythtv.org 
 Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2015 3:18 AM
 Subject: [mythtv-users] Time Warner encrypting everything. HDHR Prime with CableCard unable to record anything.
   
Running 0.27-fixes on Ubuntu 14.04
HD-HR Prime x 1 (3 tuners), HD-PVR x1

Hi all -
The Evil Empire has finally made good on its promise to encrypt all 
channels, including the local broadcast stations.

HD-HR Prime is now unable to record anything.  CableCard is now useless 
on Myth (at least I could previously use it to record the clear QAM 
channels).  Of course it works on Winblows Media Center (did a short 
test).

I've been running Linux on everything, and Myth for years, don't wish 
to switch to Windows.

Pardon the dumb question...but do I have any recourse?  An antenna is 
pretty much a no-go, as I'm in a real fringe area.  Right now the HD-PVR 
is handling everything, which means only one recording at a time.

Thanks.
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