[mythtv-users] Vintage TV - a UK Freeivew/Data Channel and MythTV

[Another Sillyname]

Have you tried running mediainfo against it?

On 6 January 2015 at 13:51, John Pilkington <J.Pilk at tesco.net> wrote:
> On 06/01/15 13:21, John Pilkington wrote:
>>
>> On 05/01/15 23:49, Paul Harrison wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> On 05/01/15 13:19, Another Sillyname wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I think they're streamed sort of in the clear (in the same way that
>>>> BBC uses DRM but in the clear), but am not certain.
>>>>
>>>> Certainly the Subscription channels are DRM protected.
>>>>
>>>> On 5 January 2015 at 11:43, Mike Perkins
>>>> <mikep at randomtraveller.org.uk> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> On 05/01/15 10:40, Charlie Myth wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello there
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have been trying to access Vintage TV on MythTV via Freeview with no
>>>>>> success; Vintage TV is available in the UK as Freeview channel 242
>>>>>> (amongst
>>>>>> other mechanisms), but requires Freeview HD (which I have via a
>>>>>> (usb) PCTV
>>>>>> nanoStick T2 290e) and a data connection as it is a streamed channel?.
>>>>>> Some
>>>>>> set top boxes and TVs are compatible others are not (
>>>>>> http://www.vintage.tv/news/26/).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Myth knows about channel 242, but I just get a blank screen when I
>>>>>> attempt
>>>>>> to watch it (I can provide further details like logs and MythTV
>>>>>> versions
>>>>>> (0.27) when I am not at work). Before delving into the detail of
>>>>>> logs etc,
>>>>>> however, I would like to ask if the fact that Vintage TV is a
>>>>>> streaming
>>>>>> service mean that it is simply not going to work with MythTV or am I
>>>>>> just
>>>>>> missing something obvious.
>>>>>>
>>>>> If it is a streamed channel, I'm guessing that it doesn't come over the
>>>>> airwaves but through your internet connection.
>>>>>
>>>>> All the channel 242 stuff probably does is provide a suitably
>>>>> obscured URL
>>>>> for the "smart" TV or STB to be able to go and find the content - and
>>>>> possibly provide a DRM key to enable the box to decode the stream
>>>>> when it
>>>>> arrives.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>> Mike Perkins
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>> I assume they are using MHEG to kickstart the streaming similar to what
>>> the BBC iPlayer does.
>>>
>>> There are a couple of settings to enable MHEG and the IC (Interative
>>> Channel) that will need to be turned  on.
>>>
>>> There have been some updates to the MHEG stuff to enable the IC on
>>> Freeview. Don't have time to check right now but can't remember if they
>>> were back ported to fixes or not so you may have better luck with master.
>>>
>>> Running with -v mheg may give a clue why it's failing in the logs.
>>>
>>> Paul H
>>
>>
>> I just enabled MHEG and IC on my SL6 installation of master-pre-2456 (2
>> Jan) with a PCTV-290e usb tuner.
>>
>> Ch 242 works in LiveTV after several tens of seconds 'taking too long to
>> be allowed to read' and 'enabling buffer optimisations for low bitrate
>> stream'.  544x576 H264 AAC/LATM 2ch
>>
>> Starting a recording from the EIT Programme Guide produced a growing
>> file, but attempting to view it caused an apparent system hang for more
>> tens of seconds; it then started playing happily.
>>
>> Restarting playback while recording caused another apparent hangup and
>> the backend reported problems with previewgen.  The recording continued
>> to grow. The frontend initially reported zero bytes but seems to have
>> caught up after recording finished.
>>
>> It would seem best not to try this yet on a production box.
>>
>> As a followup, my tv offers a small selection of unfamiliar channels via
>> Ch 241, but the associated website appears to offer live streaming of
>> many Freeview channels.
>>
>> John P
>
>
> ffmpeg -i can't identify the codecs from the recorded file and vlc doesn't
> play it.  The 'taking too long' message reads:
>
> Ringbuf(http://stream.arquiva.tv/vintagetv/streamed?content-length=true):
> Taking too long...
>
> so I would guess that although it's 'free' some kind of authorisation is
> required.
>
>
>
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