[mythtv-users] two small Q's

Daryl McDonald darylangela at gmail.com
Sun Sep 14 01:05:00 UTC 2014 

On Sat, Sep 13, 2014 at 8:30 PM, Hika van den Hoven <hikavdh at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hoi Mark,
>
> Sunday, September 14, 2014, 2:21:20 AM, you wrote:
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> > On 14 Sep 2014, at 8:57 am, "Daryl McDonald" <darylangela at gmail.com>
> wrote:
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> > On Sat, Sep 13, 2014 at 6:21 PM, Hika van den Hoven <hikavdh at gmail.com>
> wrote:
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> > Hoi Daryl,
> >
> >  Sunday, September 14, 2014, 12:11:28 AM, you wrote:
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>  >> On Sat, Sep 13, 2014 at 5:30 PM, Mark Perkins <perkins1724 at hotmail.com>
> wrote:
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>   >>> On 14 Sep 2014, at 2:21 am, "Daryl McDonald" <darylangela at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>   >>>
>   >>> Greetings Mythizens, I'v added a partition of my 250 Gb drive to
> SD's, migrated a few directories into it and provided new paths the the BE
> setup storage directories. When I look at it, I'm curious about two small
> things:
>   >>>
>   >>> daryl at daryl-A780L3C:~$ ls -l /media
>   >>> total 12
>   >>> drwxr-xr-x+ 4 root root 4096 Sep 13 12:28 daryl   << Why the "+"?
>   >>> drwxr-xr-x  4 root root 4096 Sep 11 08:18 storage
>   >>> drwxr-xr-x  4 root root 4096 Sep 11 08:14 storage2
>  >>
>  >>  /media/storage/ and /media/storage2/ are both owned by root:root not
> mythtv:mythtv.
> >
>  >> agreed, but fully functional,would you recommend chown-ing them?
> >
> >  No need unless you want mythtv being able to create files in the
> >  directory itself. Access to underlying directories is garanteed by the
> >  World rx rights.
>  >>
>   >>> daryl at daryl-A780L3C:~$ ls -l /media/daryl
>   >>> total 8
>   >>> drwx------ 2 root root 4096 Aug 26 08:01
> 3769e2e8-adde-456c-86e4-0402be737ef6
>   >>> Does the UUID show here because it is a partition, not a drive?  <<<
>   >>> drwxrwxr-x 4 root root 4096 Sep 13 10:27 mythxtra
>   >>> daryl at daryl-A780L3C:~$ ls -l /media/storage
>   >>> total 20
>   >>> drwx------ 2 root root   16384 Jun 11  2013 lost+found
>   >>> drwxrwxr-x 8 ntp  mythtv  4096 Sep 13 10:42 mythtv
>  >>
>  >>  Looks like /media/storage/mythtv/ is still owned by user ntp not
> mythtv.
> >
>  >> there is one file and one directory in there with the ntp while the
>  >> rest have mythtv, no problem thus far?
> >
> >  Cosmetically speaking I would chown the mythtv directories to mythtv
>  >>
>   >>> daryl at daryl-A780L3C:~$ ls -l /media/storage2
>   >>> total 20
>   >>> drwx------ 2 root   root 16384 Aug 27 12:54 lost+found
>   >>> drwxrwxr-x 3 mythtv root  4096 Sep 11 08:33 mythtv
>  >>
>  >>  /media/storage2/mythtv/ group ownership is root not mythtv.
> >
>  >> this being the drive that has most available space is getting a
>  >> recording as I type, doesn't seem to be broken?
> >
> >  The access through the group is so that you can grant users access by
> >  making them member of the mythtv group. Again cosmetically speaking I
> >  would change the group to mythtv.
> >
>  >>
>   >>> daryl at daryl-A780L3C:~$ ls -l /media/daryl/mythxtra
>   >>> total 20
>   >>> drwx------ 2 root   root   16384 Sep 13 10:14 lost+found
>   >>> drwxrwxr-x 9 mythtv mythtv  4096 Sep 13 10:36 mythtv
>   >>> daryl at daryl-A780L3C:~$
>   >>>
>   >>> See questions inserted with <'s. Everything else looks good to me,
> have I missed anything?   TIA   Daryl
>   >>>
>  >>
>  >>> _______________________________________________
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>  >> Thanks for the replies and critiques, I'm trying to find a balance
>  >> where I do what is necessary, instead of everything possible, which
>  >> has bitten my backside in the past.
> >
> >
> >  Tot mails,
> >    Hika                            mailto:hikavdh at gmail.com
> >
> >  "Zonder hoop kun je niet leven
> >  Zonder leven is er geen hoop
> >  Het eeuwige dilemma
> >  Zeker als je hoop moet vernietigen om te kunnen overleven!"
> >
> >  De lerende Mens
> >
> >
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> > OK cosmetically correct now:
>
> >  daryl at daryl-A780L3C:~$ ls -l /media/storage
> > total 20
> > drwx------ 2 root root   16384 Jun 11  2013 lost+found
> > drwxrwxr-x 8 ntp  mythtv  4096 Sep 13 10:42 mythtv
> > daryl at daryl-A780L3C:~$ sudo chown mythtv /media/storage/mythtv
> > [sudo] password for daryl:
> > daryl at daryl-A780L3C:~$ ls -l /media/storage
> > total 20
> > drwx------ 2 root   root   16384 Jun 11  2013 lost+found
> > drwxrwxr-x 8 mythtv mythtv  4096 Sep 13 10:42 mythtv
> > daryl at daryl-A780L3C:~$ ls -l /media/storage2
> > total 20
> > drwx------ 2 root   root 16384 Aug 27 12:54 lost+found
> > drwxrwxr-x 3 mythtv root  4096 Sep 11 08:33 mythtv
> > daryl at daryl-A780L3C:~$ sudo chown .mythtv /media/storage2/mythtv
> > daryl at daryl-A780L3C:~$ ls -l /media/storage2
> > total 20
> > drwx------ 2 root   root   16384 Aug 27 12:54 lost+found
> > drwxrwxr-x 3 mythtv mythtv  4096 Sep 11 08:33 mythtv
> > daryl at daryl-A780L3C:~$
>
> > Grazie!
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> > In my opinion it is a bit more important than cosmetics, even if it
> > appears to be working fine as it is. There might be issues you
> > haven't picked up on yet or future problems.
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> > It might be just me but one of the first things I learnt with
> > Ubuntu (noting I am a ubuntu newbie) is that permissions are king -
> > if something is not working it is pretty much the first thing I check.
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> > If changing the user:group ownership to mythtv causes a problem in
> > my mind that is a good thing because it lets you fix whatever the
> > real cause is before it causes something more severe or problematic to
> occur.
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> I agree, but mostly in the sense that consistency prevents a lot off
> problems and if they occur they are easier to fix.
>
> Tot mails,
>   Hika                            mailto:hikavdh at gmail.com
>
> "Zonder hoop kun je niet leven
> Zonder leven is er geen hoop
> Het eeuwige dilemma
> Zeker als je hoop moet vernietigen om te kunnen overleven!"
>
> De lerende Mens
>
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Much obliged to you both!
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