[mythtv-users] OT DVD ripping software

[jedi]

On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 02:54:51AM +1100, Mike Holden wrote:
> jedi wrote:
> > On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 03:55:05PM +1100, Mike Holden wrote:
> >> Simon Hobson wrote:
> >> >> Swanseasurfing wrote:
> >> >>> Did anybody integrate an "import disc" menu item into MythTV
> >> >>> (e.g. that
> >> >>
> >> >>   I would not bother with something like that. The key
> >> advantage
> >> >> of something
> >> >> like MythTV which is built on top of something like Linux which
> >> is
> >> >> ultimately
> >> >> just Unix is that "it's all just files".
> >> >>
> >> >>   You can do what you need to do outside of MythTV and then let
> >> it
> >> >> deal with
> >> >> the results you've created.
> >> >
> >> > That's fine for most of us, but a lot of people would like a
> >> system
> >> > where they pop a disk in the slot under the TV and "shortly
> >> > afterwards" are able to watch it. The WAF for such a function
> >> would
> >> > be a lot higher than any "well you have to go to this other
> >> system,
> >> > run some magic incantations, and eventually you'll be able to
> >> watch
> >> > the disk" setup.
> >>
> >> In my view, there are too many variables in the layout of a disk
> >> to
> >> just "rip it automagically".
> >
> >     I have rarely found this to be an issue. Movies generally have a
> > single main title. TV shows have a predictable pattern of titles of
> > a certain size.
> >
> >     Discs with multiple variations (TV or film) are exceptions.
> 
> I have seen movie disks with 20 or more (even up to 50+, the record

    That's a specific copy protection measure. 

    Some publishers (most notably Disney), like to scramble the table
of contents on a DVD (or even BD) in an attempt to confuse computing
devices.

    It's out there and it's a problem you will probably run into sooner
or later but it's not pervasive.

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> >
> >     Looking at the title list, it's pretty easy to figure out what
> > kind of disk you are dealing with and what are the tracks you want.
> 
> For a human, yes. For a "simple" bash script, not so much.

    I have a bash script that does this very thing.

> 
> >     Subtitles and captions are just different streams in the
> > container
> > and those with very few exceptions are also very predictiable and
> > easy
> > to extract in an automated fashion.
> 
> Yet again, it's those "very few exceptions" that prove the
> difficulty in automating every possibility. My canned script uses

     My media horde is quite large (both TV and film) and I can count the 
number of such exceptions on my fingers. 

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> >     If you're not transcoding the video, you don't even have to
> > worry
> > about any of that stuff because it will all just remain in the VOB
> > or BD stream.
> 
> Yes, but then you're stuck with all the adverts and annoying
> trailers and piracy messages, and the inconvenience of waiting for 3

    No you aren't.

    Trying to claim this is just silly.

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