[mythtv-users] "phantom" subtitles on DVD

Ian Evans dheianevans at gmail.com
Mon Nov 24 01:58:24 UTC 2014


On Sun, Nov 23, 2014 at 3:32 AM, Ian Evans <dheianevans at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sun, Nov 23, 2014 at 3:29 AM, Ian Evans <dheianevans at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> On Sat, Nov 22, 2014 at 9:28 PM, Ian Evans <dheianevans at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Sep 22, 2013 at 9:26 AM, Jim Stichnoth <stichnot at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sat, Sep 21, 2013 at 7:30 PM, Ian Evans <dheianevans at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Sep 21, 2013 at 9:51 PM, Doug Lytle <support at drdos.info>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Ian Evans wrote:
>>>>>> > Any tweaks I should be looking at?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've seen it happen many times.  I use SubtitleEditor to correct the
>>>>>> timings.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks, Doug, I'll take a look at that. Just strange that they don't
>>>>> even appear for the first 10 mins or so. If I look at the srt file in
>>>>> mousepad, all the dialogue is there.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I have a number of DVDs that claim to have closed captions, but whose
>>>> display in MythTV is sporadic at best.  From what you're describing (all
>>>> caption text seems to be intact in the .srt file), it sounds like the
>>>> timecodes might be messed up in the original DVD MPEG source.  Do the
>>>> timecodes in your .srt file look reasonable?  I.e. the duration of each
>>>> subtitle, and the end time of one subtitle compared to the start time of
>>>> the next subtitle.
>>>>
>>>> BTW, the closed captions are encoded as special packets in the MPEG
>>>> file.  It is up to the player to render them onto the video image and/or
>>>> insert them into the analog VBI output signal.  Only the former is possible
>>>> when using component or HDMI output.  MythTV has never done the latter,
>>>> though commercial DVD players probably do.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Sorry...been a long while since I played with this.
>>>
>>> Anyhoo...was able to grab an srt file for the video. Watching in myth it
>>> was terribly often off, e.g. person left the room and then their dialogue
>>> would appear. I downloaded the Windows version of Subtitle Edit and when I
>>> open the files on my desktop the audio and subtitles were perfectly synced.
>>> I had done nothing. Why would they be off in Myth?
>>>
>>> Just curious if SE does some autofixing when it loads. Don't have access
>>> to the mythbox right now as the missus is asleep. Should I resave the .srt
>>> file and check the myth in the morning?
>>>
>>
>> Just checked. The captions are still out of sync, off by five seconds,
>> sometimes ten or more despite the fact that they're perfect in Windoze.
>>
>> I'm wondering if this is a skipping issue I saw in some threads. The film
>> opens with a few minutes of silent action so I always skip to where the
>> dialogue starts.
>>
>> Further info:
>>
>> .mkv video
>> external .srt file
>> i.e. the file browser has title.mkv and title.srt
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>>
>>
>>
> Also...forgot, running latest .27 fixes
>

Update...merged the SRT file into the mkv and suddenly the subtitles were
in sync.
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