[mythtv-users] Trademark Issue with "Packages - MythTV Official Wiki" and the repository is questionable for Debian users

[Anthony Giggins]

On 7 November 2014 01:05, Michael T. Dean <mtdean at thirdcontact.com> wrote:

> On 11/05/2014 09:49 PM, Chuck Peters wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> https://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Packages shows Debian packages are available
>> for MythTV.  However the packages are not officially part of Debian [1],
>> and the site which was advertised as Debian Multimedia is known to break
>> libraries for Debian users [2].
>>
>> The MythTV packages page shows the Debian logo and definitely left me
>> with the impression that it was officially part of Debian. It was a
>> trademark violation and the site owner was asked by Debian's project
>> leader Stefano Zacchiroli in 2012 to change the domain name.  I would
>> like to see it corrected on MythTV's site. [3]
>>
>> 1. http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/pkg-multimedia-
>> maintainers/2012-May/026678.html
>> 2. http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/pkg-multimedia-
>> maintainers/2012-April/025867.html
>> 3. https://www.debian.org/trademark
>> When You Can Use the Debian Trademarks Without Asking Permission
>>    1. You can use Debian trademarks to make true factual statements about
>> Debian or communicate compatibility with your product truthfully.
>>
>
> I updated the page, changing the text of the site name from the old
> "Debian Multimedia" to the new "deb-multimedia" that the site owner used,
> and added the words "unofficial packages" so that it's clear that they're
> not blessed by systemd, er, I mean Debian.  I left the logo in place
> because that logo indicates that the packages are created for Debian--not
> to mention the fact that http://deb-multimedia.org/ still uses the Debian
> logo (see the site icon - http://deb-multimedia.org/favicon.ico ).
>
>  I have more questions like Why isn't MythTV in the
>> official Debian archives yet
>>
>
> AIUI, originally MythTV could not be an official Debian package because
> MythTV requires ffmpeg, including requiring certain parts of ffmpeg
> (including CODECs) that may be in violation of patents and/or copyrights in
> some parts of the world, meaning that a MythTV package would be in
> violation of Debian's ethos.  Now that Debian seems to have changed their
> view on ethics, inclusion of MythTV should be no more difficult than
> inclusion of MPlayer or xine.  (That said, my interpretation of the
> official Debian Social Contract and the Debian Free Software Guidelines and
> the Debian Position on Software Patents is that none of them should be
> allowed to be officially hosted in the Debian repository, even in the
> non-free area.  IMHO, if they can't host libdvdcss--due to patent/licensing
> violation--they shouldn't be able to host any software that decodes MP3 and
> MPEG-2 and MPEG-4 and ..., but hey, I'm no lawyer.)
>
> Mike
>
>
> Hi Mike,

may also want to update the Mythdora entry as this has been retired However
"The mirrors are still live and updates available" upto version 0.25 I
believe (dont think there have been any updates since then)

Cheers,

Anthony
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