[mythtv-users] Trademark Issue with "Packages - MythTV Official Wiki" and the repository is questionable for Debian users

Thomas Mashos thomas at mashos.com
Thu Nov 6 06:52:26 UTC 2014


On Wed, Nov 5, 2014 at 6:49 PM, Chuck Peters <cp at ccil.org> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> https://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Packages shows Debian packages are available
> for MythTV.  However the packages are not officially part of Debian [1],
> and the site which was advertised as Debian Multimedia is known to break
> libraries for Debian users [2].
>
> The MythTV packages page shows the Debian logo and definitely left me
> with the impression that it was officially part of Debian. It was a
> trademark violation and the site owner was asked by Debian's project
> leader Stefano Zacchiroli in 2012 to change the domain name.  I would
> like to see it corrected on MythTV's site. [3]
>
> 1. http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/pkg-multimedia-maintainers/2012-May/026678.html
> 2. http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/pkg-multimedia-maintainers/2012-April/025867.html
> 3. https://www.debian.org/trademark
> When You Can Use the Debian Trademarks Without Asking Permission
>   1. You can use Debian trademarks to make true factual statements about Debian or communicate compatibility with your product truthfully.
>
> I would have editid the wiki page, https://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Packages,
> but I don't have permission.
>
> Option 1: Remove the entry for the Debian packages.  Then after we have
> some official Debian packages, link to it.  I favor this option.
>
> Option 2: Remove the word Debian, and make it clear it is a third party
> site asking for donations and it may break your Debian libraries or
> worse.
>
> Any comments?
>
>
>
> I am looking into running a MythTV frontend on Debian's stable release
> wheezy with the backend running Mythbuntu's .27 fixes branch from the
> Launchpad PPA.  I'm still looking into how I might do that and
> unfortunately I have more questions like Why isn't MythTV in the
> official Debian archives yet and what do we need to do you get them
> there...  I would think it wouldn't be too much work to use the
> Mythbuntu packages in Debian, but then we would have other trademark
> issues that require a license from Canonical...  Hopefully we can see
> some official Debian MythTV packages by christmas, does anyone want to
> help?
>

Why would you require a license from Canonical?

> Let me be clear I am not accusing anyone of doing something
> intentionally wrong.  I just want MythTV and Debian users to be able to
> run reliable packages easily and not worry about these sometimes messy
> trademark issues.
>
>
> Thanks,
> Chuck
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Thanks,

Thomas Mashos


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