[mythtv-users] modernizing mythtv

[Justin Hornsby]

To get back on-topic.. does anybody actually have an idea who'd
protest at MythTV insisting on OpenGL support as a minimum? Can there
really be many users still relying on the Qt painter?  Or has anybody
considered using Qt's native UI handling which copes with & without
opengl? Surely there can't be anything myth needs that isn't provided
already..


On 10 May 2014 12:57, Mike Perkins <mikep at randomtraveller.org.uk> wrote:
> On 09/05/14 23:42, John Morris wrote:
>>
>> On Fri, 2014-05-09 at 14:13 +0100, Mike Perkins wrote:
>>>
>>> On 09/05/14 01:27, John Morris wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Wed, 2014-05-07 at 22:33 -0500, Saul A. Peebsen wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> No need for SSH, X has native feature to be accessed remotely, SSH is
>>>>> needed only if accessed over untrusted network. You can have an X app
>>>>> installed in a remote box - no X needed in this box - and you can run
>>>>> this app from any box that has X installed. It is amazing how people do
>>>>> not remember basics.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Tried it lately?  Most modern distributions 'discourage' the practice.
>>>> The local X server won't be bound to a TCP port out of the box and if
>>>> iptables is running it will block any outside connection anyway.  And
>>>> fixing it gets harder and harder every year.  And Wayland will put a
>>>> final end to remote X unless you install an X11 emulation layer exactly
>>>> like Windows folk must.
>>>>
>>> Huh? The X server runs on the box you sit in front of. The ports are
>>> standard.
>>> iptables? You only get that (on Debian, at least) if you ask for it.
>>
>>
>> Take a look at a default install some time.  X is bound to the local
>> UNIX Domain only, not to TCP/IP.  Been that way on RH derived installs
>> since RHEL4 at least.  You have to manually adjust GDM to invoke X with
>> a switch to enable network support now.  You need to add this
>> to /etc/gdm/custom.conf:
>>
>> [security]
>> DisallowTCP=false
>>
>>
>>> And if Wayland doesn't have a networking option it will be of limited use
>>> to
>>> most *nix users.
>>
>>
>> That is exactly what they have in mind.  They disabled the network a
>> decade ago and nobody marched with pitchforks and torches so they see no
>> reason to care what we think.  *NIX users are not the target audience
>> anymore, we allowed too many refugees in from Windows and they took
>> over, their cultural values now dominate the decision process.  Network
>> transparency is no longer even seen as a virtue.  And don't even get me
>> going on systemd and it's blatant move to adopt Service Manager and
>> Event logging from Windows.
>>
> We're both answering regarding particular (different) distros which we use.
>
> I'm running Debian Wheezy with LXDE on my workstations. On the MBE there is
> just the base installation to which I add ssh, mysql and mythtv.
>
> Gnome? Just say no. That means that your /etc/gdm/custom.conf doesn't even
> exist on any of my installations. If it /did/, it would /still/ be on the
> host that you're sitting at.
>
> Don't you get it? On my MBE there is no X installation at all. It isn't
> required. So no Gnome or any other desktop, nor configuration for same.
>
> --
>
> Mike Perkins
>
>
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