[mythtv-users] Mythbuntu 14.04 and unwanted pop-ups

Leo Butler leo.butler at member.ams.org
Mon May 5 20:57:06 UTC 2014


>
>   On Mon, 2014-05-05 at 13:48 +0000, Leo Butler wrote:=20
>   >=20
>   > There is no need to wait for the mythbuntu team to implement your
>   > idea. Create your .deb package, sign it, put it up on a ppa and
>   > announce it to this list.
>
>   Which means doing whatever I have to get a PPA, and since I have no idea
>   what that is, it means figuring that out, etc.  And then people have to
>   discover my PPA instead of everyone who gets Mythbuntu just getting it.
>   It's just not the right solution, IMHO.

Yes, it does require you to do some work to prove that you stand
behind your product. It's just easier to blast off an email every week
or so...

Btw, there are no right solutions. If Linus had waited for the right
solution we'd all be using mcc or some crap stb from the cable co or
...

>
>   > Of course, if you just want to complain about other people not
>   > implementing your own brilliant idea, then...
>
>   I think I already mentioned that I owed them (at least) a contribution
>   if they were willing to accept it through into their distribution
>   packaging, so you can get off of your high horse.

I've not mounted anything. My intent was to prod you into some
productive action that could benefit the community.

>
>   > I don't understand some folks. If one decides to venture off the
>   > beaten path, best carry a machete to blaze one's own trail...
>
>   And what's your point?  I have my machete in my hand.
>
>   > and stop
>   > wasting energy criticizing others for not blazing the trail chosen.
>
>   Offering help and opinion is not criticizing.  If nobody offered
>   opinions and ideas then there would only be one way to do anything and
>   everything and that way would most likely not be the best way most of
>   the time.

You miss my analogy: you have a solution that works for you. Great,
you blazed a trail. Well, map out the trail (i.e. provide a package,
etc.) and be prepared to be a guide.

>
>   > I run 12.04 ubuntu with the myth packages as a frontend (not
>   > mythbuntu) on an old thinkpad t43, and 99.9% of the time I don't need
>   > a windowmanager, but for that 0.1% of the time I am glad I do.
>
>   What is a specific example of that 0.1%?  I keep seeing the hand-waving
>   about needing a window manager but nobody ever produces a specific
>   use-case when they have needed it.

The wife wants to know the weather forecast and I don't want to go to
the basement or fire up another computer--it's easier to fire up
firefox on the frontend. And I don't want to kill mythfrontend to do
that. Etc.

>
>   On the other hand I can produce a number of specific use-cases of never
>   needing it, which is the many/several frontends that I have been running
>   throughout both mine and family members homes for over 10 years now.
>   None of them have ever had window managers and none have ever had window
>   focus/selection/etc. problems.

I can imagine, especially with kids, that your solution is ideal and I
do not intend to dismiss it. Actually, I'd like to give it a test run.

Leo


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