[mythtv-users] Updated mythbuntu theme version 28

John P Poet jppoet at gmail.com
Sun Mar 30 16:49:37 UTC 2014


On Sat, Mar 29, 2014 at 11:09 PM, Thomas Mashos <thomas at mashos.com> wrote:

> On Sat, Mar 29, 2014 at 9:49 AM, John P Poet <jppoet at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Sat, Mar 29, 2014 at 8:46 AM, Thomas Mashos <thomas at mashos.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 8:05 AM, John P Poet <jppoet at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 5:41 AM, Jean-Yves Avenard <
> jyavenard at gmail.com>
> >> > wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> On 27 March 2014 21:24, Jan Schneider <jan at horde.org> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> > http://imgur.com/WLJUaQn
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Weird, the date here is showing as 27/5 that's it.. not a full date
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > mythfrontend -> Setup -> Appearance -> (3rd page) Date Format
> >> >
> >> > That is one of the few settings the user is still allowed to make,
> that
> >> > themers have to account for.  Believe it or not, but I actually wish
> the
> >> > user had a little more control of the UI appearance, even though it
> >> > would
> >> > make theming that much harder.
> >> >
> >> > John
> >>
> >> I'm not sure I agree with this. If I've got to account for that, it
> >> means I have to account for the largest value (something like
> >> "Wednesday, December 31st, 2288"). If I do that, there isn't much
> >> space left on the screen for anything else (that would probably be a
> >> larger field than title, which would be silly).
> >
> >
> > One of the reasons I ended up writing Steppes, was because there was not
> a
> > *single* theme which presented all the data I wanted to see, in the way I
> > wanted to see it.  If everyone agreed that they liked a single
> presentation,
> > then there would only be one theme, and we would not have the choices
> that
> > we do ;-)
> >
> > I personally have my date format set to "DoW YYYY-MM-DD".  It does not
> > really take up that much room, but it does take more room than mosts
> themes
> > allow for.  In Steppes, the page heading (or page title) can overlap the
> > date, but even with the longest date format and the longest page heading
> > they do not -- if English is the language.  It might happen, though,
> with a
> > language like Russian.   One of the biggest challenges was trying to use
> a
> > large enough font that it could be read from across the room, but still
> have
> > enough room to allow Greek translated labels to still fit in their
> "areas".
>
> And that doesn't look like a huge waste of space if I'm using MM/DD?
>

I use  <minsize>20,100%</minsize>  as part of the background shape, so that
it will auto-adjust its size to however wide the date/time text is.  This
keeps it from looking unbalanced.



> >
> > Stuart has been tinkering with creating a theme which uses icons wherever
> > possible, to solve the problem with allowing enough area for 'labels'.
> > Icons are universal, so you don't have to worry about how long the
> > translation is going to be in another language.
> >
> >
>
> I'm not sure this will help. I don't believe we have labels in any of
> the areas were talking about.



Right, I was just throwing this out there for discussion.   This is all
really a tangent to this email thread, and I apologize for instigating it.
 I personally hate it when threads go off-topic, and there I go doing it
myself.

BTW, I do like where you are going with the mythbuntu theme. For a brief
period of time it lost its way, but it is coming back nicely now. It is one
of the better themes out there.

John
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