[mythtv-users] [UK] ITV Channels Freeview and Freesat different series/program IDs

[Jksj]

On 23/09/13 18:08, John wrote:
> On 23/09/13 12:23, Jksj wrote:
>> On 22/09/13 12:21, Paul Raison wrote:
>>> On 21 Sep 2013, at 19:30, John <reidjr at lineone.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I have both freeview and freesat on my myth backend, and found a ( 
>>>> slightly) annoying problem with ITV channels. As these channels are 
>>>> exactly the same from both sources, I have matching 
>>>> channum/callsign etc.
>>>>
>>>> If I schedule a "record all showings" and set the scheduling to 
>>>> check for duplicates, and prefer freesat ( higher quality), it will 
>>>> record 1 copy from Freesat, and then at another time, one from 
>>>> Freeview.  They don't record at the same time, so the scheduling is 
>>>> preferring freesat.
>>>>
>>> I have exactly the same setup as you. I got around the problem by 
>>> using the Radio Times XMLTV for listings on these channels. Using 
>>> the single listings source ensure that programme / series ids remain 
>>> the same.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>> Paul Raison
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>> I have the same set up as you but have not experienced the problem 
>> you are reporting. I do get the odd funny where the scheduler gets 
>> confused if there are minor differences in the two EPGs (patricularly 
>> times being slightly different). Noting your comment that  you have 
>> matching channum/callsign. I have Freesat & Freeview configured as 
>> different sources using different channel numbers. ie they appear 
>> separately in the EPG. That may be the key difference.
>> Its a matter of getting your head round the scheduling section of 
>> http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/MythTV-HOWTO_-_0.27#Scheduling_Options :-) 
>> . I am considering making the call signs different so Myth treats the 
>> two sources as completely separate entities. This should work fine 
>> using the 'record on any channel' (Myth 0.27)rule with an HD filter 
>> when required. The prioritisation of Freesat as a source would still 
>> work, what do you think?
>> N.B. I have been down the XMLTV route and agree that the data is more 
>> consistent but wanted to use the same data source as the rest of the 
>> country ie the EPG as it is bound to be more upto date.
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>
> Thank youfor your reply.
>
> Do you record much ( anything ) on ITV ? BBC channels are rock solid, 
> with matching series and program IDs, its ITV particularly the 
> minority channels ITV3 etc.
>
> I think if you tried to record on any channel "Adventures of sherlock 
> holmes" or somthing from ITV3 you would still see the same problem. 
> (If you dont, I might seperate the channels ), but my understanding of 
> the scheduler suggests that would do nothing to see the freeview and 
> freesat versions as the same recording.
>
> To be crystal clear, the issue occurs where there are multiple 
> versions. The "same" episode shows on freeview and freesat ITV3 , at 
> 9, then again on ITV3+1, and then often repeated the next day.
>
> If th efirst recording is on freesat, When the episode is repeated, it 
> will record on freeview, as it sees it as a diffrent episode to the 
> one previously recorded on freesat.
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I have never had any problems on ITV HD which I receive from both 
sources. As far as SD channels go, I tend to only enable them on Freesat 
as I find the bit rate too low on Freeview. So I may have avoided the 
issue you are experiencing by luck rather than judgement:-\ .