[mythtv-users] "phantom" subtitles on DVD

[Ian Evans]

On Sat, Sep 21, 2013 at 4:39 PM, John Morris <jmorris at beau.org> wrote:

> On Sat, 2013-09-21 at 00:34 -0400, Ian Evans wrote:
> > The missus bought a DVD of a 2002 TV movie she likes and I tossed it in
> the
> > Myth box so we could watch it. A bit of conversation that was hard to
> > understand had us reaching for the remote to turn on the subtitles. There
> > was nothing, though the CC's were listed on the DVD case.
>
> I'm guessing it doesn't have a subtitle track, only the older Closed
> Captions embedded in the video signal from when the film was first
> mastered for airing on TV.  Try it in a DVD player and use the closed
> caption button on your TV.  Hint: Closed Captions aren't delivered over
> HDMI, only an analog connection.  Yes a lot of new DVD & BD gear label
> the button captions but captions and subtitles are entirely different
> critters.  Most DVDs will copy the CC info into a subtitle track during
> mastering, but there isn't any rule requiring it.
>
> Creating or reproducing Closed Captions require payments to the
> government granted monopoly entity (National Captioning Institute in the
> US) holding the mark, subtitles don't.  Despite that legality Myth will
> read captions from TV if the capture device grabs them.  All of the
> digital (ATSC, QAM, HDHR Prime) tuners appear to do it.  Can't really
> say whether the Myth DVD player does, I'm still on 0.25 and DVD playback
> is too unstable for serious use.


Very weird though that makemkv would detect a subtitle channel. Guess I'll
post on their forum. Thanks for your detailed info.
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