[mythtv-users] State of blu-ray support?

James MacKenzie mst3000 at newsguy.com
Tue Nov 19 20:18:01 UTC 2013


> On Nov 19, 2013, at 2:28 PM, jedi <jedi at mishnet.org> wrote:
> 
>> On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 09:02:34AM -0500, Stephen P. Villano wrote:
>> 
>>> On 11/19/13 8:37 AM, Raymond Wagner wrote:
>>>> On Nov 18, 2013, at 8:53, jedi <jedi at mishnet.org> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> On Sun, Nov 17, 2013 at 05:06:30PM -0500, Raymond Wagner wrote:
>>>>>> On 11/17/2013 12:42 PM, Simon Hobson wrote:
>>>>>> Eric Sharkey wrote:
>>>>>>> No, that's not the only way.  The other way is to demonstrate the
>>>>>>> futility of shenanigans.
>>>>>> That's proven not to work. Those that inflict such crap on the world
>>>>>> simply see that as meaning they need stickier, smellier sh*t.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Eg, the CSS on DVDs was shown to be futile, so they* enacted laws to
>>>>>> make it illegal to circumvent it. In addition, they did the CSS for
>>>>>> BlueRay, which again has been shown not to be effective against other
>>>>>> than against law abiding people who weren't going to redistribute
>>>>>> unprotected videos anyway.
>>>>> Unless you're going off the premise that all DRM schemes will forever be
>>>>> ineffective, because they are based off an inherently insecure premise,
>>>>> the laws you speak of were around long before the software to circumvent
>>>>> CSS was available. They were pre-emptive.
>>>>   Long before? Hardly. The DMCA was passed a year before CSS was cracked.
>>>> Even if the suits and the lobbyists didn't know how weak an vulnerable it
>>>> was, certainly industry professionals did.
>>>> 
>>>>   "Long before" implies something more like 5 years or even 20.
>>>> 
>>>>    Now what does qualify as "long before" are all of the other failed 
>>>> attempts at copy protection over the years. The same goes for companies
>>>> and industries that should have been wiped out by piracy.
>>> It's not like a bill just magically materializes out of nowhere the moment it is ratified.  It was in the works for two years before it was passed, and just a year after DVD was first available and CSS was a thing to be cracked.
>>> _______________________________________________
>> There are times that I'm amazed how few of my fellow citizens understand
> 
>    Doesn't sound too hard. You're an arrogant idiot.
> 
Wow...let's start acting civil, here.  If not. I'll have to send you to your room without dinner!!  ;)


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