[mythtv-users] State of blu-ray support?

Raymond Wagner raymond at wagnerrp.com
Tue Nov 19 13:37:47 UTC 2013


On Nov 18, 2013, at 8:53, jedi <jedi at mishnet.org> wrote:

> On Sun, Nov 17, 2013 at 05:06:30PM -0500, Raymond Wagner wrote:
>> On 11/17/2013 12:42 PM, Simon Hobson wrote:
>>> Eric Sharkey wrote:
>>>> No, that's not the only way.  The other way is to demonstrate the
>>>> futility of shenanigans.
>>> 
>>> That's proven not to work. Those that inflict such crap on the world
>>> simply see that as meaning they need stickier, smellier sh*t.
>>> 
>>> Eg, the CSS on DVDs was shown to be futile, so they* enacted laws to
>>> make it illegal to circumvent it. In addition, they did the CSS for
>>> BlueRay, which again has been shown not to be effective against other
>>> than against law abiding people who weren't going to redistribute
>>> unprotected videos anyway.
>> 
>> Unless you're going off the premise that all DRM schemes will forever be
>> ineffective, because they are based off an inherently insecure premise,
>> the laws you speak of were around long before the software to circumvent
>> CSS was available. They were pre-emptive.
> 
>    Long before? Hardly. The DMCA was passed a year before CSS was cracked.
> Even if the suits and the lobbyists didn't know how weak an vulnerable it
> was, certainly industry professionals did.
> 
>    "Long before" implies something more like 5 years or even 20.
> 
>     Now what does qualify as "long before" are all of the other failed 
> attempts at copy protection over the years. The same goes for companies
> and industries that should have been wiped out by piracy.

It's not like a bill just magically materializes out of nowhere the moment it is ratified.  It was in the works for two years before it was passed, and just a year after DVD was first available and CSS was a thing to be cracked.


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