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channels (CTV 9, and CHCH 11) happen to be VHF, and they come in about equa=
lly well on both (UHF) antennas.
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.1)
Do you prefer the MacPorts route?=20
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<span style=3D"font-family: helvetica, arial; font-size: small; ">From: Cra=
ig Treleaven <ctreleaven at cogeco.ca></span><br>
<span style=3D"font-family: helvetica, arial; font-size: small; ">To: Discu=
ssion about MythTV <mythtv-users at mythtv.org></span><br>
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, Feb 21, 2013 7:33 am</span><br>
<span style=3D"font-family: helvetica, arial; font-size: small; ">Subject: =
Re: [mythtv-users] Mapping OTA channels to HDHomerun tuners</span><br>
<font face=3D"arial" size=3D"2" style=3D"font-family: helvetica, arial; "><=
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</font><span style=3D"font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif; font=
-size: 9pt; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); ">At 11:02 PM -0500 2/20/=
13, Gill Stan wrote:</span><br>
<span style=3D"font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: =
9pt; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); ">>In the last couple of week=
s, I have just set up my first MythTV </span><br>
<span style=3D"font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: =
9pt; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); ">>installation and I am very=
impressed with this application. It's a </span><br>
<span style=3D"font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: =
9pt; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); ">>great program but there is=
one aspect that I just can't figure out.</span><br>
<span style=3D"font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: =
9pt; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); ">></span><br>
<span style=3D"font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: =
9pt; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); ">>I installed mythtv on a de=
dicated MacPro running Mountain Lion OS-X. </span><br>
<span style=3D"font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: =
9pt; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); ">>I'm using Schedules Direct=
as my source of tv program listings.</span><br>
<span style=3D"font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: =
9pt; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); ">></span><br>
<span style=3D"font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: =
9pt; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); ">>My setup consists of two U=
HF antennas pointing in different </span><br>
<span style=3D"font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: =
9pt; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); ">>directions to get a collec=
tion of over-the-air (OTA) channels from </span><br>
<span style=3D"font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: =
9pt; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); ">>Buffalo NY and Toronto ON =
respectively (about 10 channels per </span><br>
<span style=3D"font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: =
9pt; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); ">>antenna). Each antenna is =
connected to its own HDHomerun Dual tuner </span><br>
<span style=3D"font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: =
9pt; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); ">>box. This is the best way =
of ensuring good reception on all the </span><br>
<span style=3D"font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: =
9pt; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); ">>channels, but it introduce=
s the complexity of tuner selection </span><br>
<span style=3D"font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: =
9pt; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); ">>according to channel.</spa=
n><br>
<span style=3D"font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: =
9pt; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); ">></span><br>
<span style=3D"font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: =
9pt; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); ">>Here is the problem I cann=
ot solve... I want the mythtv backend to </span><br>
<span style=3D"font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: =
9pt; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); ">>select automatically the a=
ppropriate source/tuner according to the </span><br>
<span style=3D"font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: =
9pt; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); ">>TV channel that I want to =
view live or to record. It appears that </span><br>
<span style=3D"font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: =
9pt; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); ">>this cannot be done with t=
he master backend by itself. The backend </span><br>
<span style=3D"font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: =
9pt; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); ">>just chooses the next avai=
lable tuner based on a fixed priority </span><br>
<span style=3D"font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: =
9pt; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); ">>list, with no regard for c=
hannel mapping.</span><br>
<span style=3D"font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: =
9pt; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); ">></span><br>
<span style=3D"font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: =
9pt; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); ">>Correct me if I'm wrong...=
It seems that the solution is to have one </span><br>
<span style=3D"font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: =
9pt; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); ">>slave backend connected to=
the Buffalo tuner, and another slave </span><br>
<span style=3D"font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: =
9pt; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); ">>backend connected to the T=
oronto tuner. Then it would be possible to </span><br>
<span style=3D"font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: =
9pt; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); ">>set up the master backend =
to always choose the appropriate tuner </span><br>
<span style=3D"font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: =
9pt; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); ">>automatically. Is this cor=
rect, and is this the only way of doing </span><br>
<span style=3D"font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: =
9pt; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); ">>it? If so, do the slave ba=
ckends each need to run on separate </span><br>
<span style=3D"font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: =
9pt; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); ">>computers, or is there any=
way that they can run concurrently with </span><br>
<span style=3D"font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: =
9pt; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); ">>the master backend, all on=
the same computer?</span><br>
<span style=3D"font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: =
9pt; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); ">></span><br>
<span style=3D"font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: =
9pt; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); ">>Or is there some other pra=
ctical solution?</span><br>
<span style=3D"font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: =
9pt; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); ">></span><br>
<span style=3D"font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: =
9pt; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); ">>To sum up, how can mythtv =
map the OTA channels to the tuners?</span><br>
<span style=3D"font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: =
9pt; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); ">></span><br>
<span style=3D"font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: =
9pt; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); ">>Does anyone have experienc=
e or a solution to share? Specific </span><br>
<span style=3D"font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: =
9pt; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); ">>instructions would be extr=
emely appreciated.</span><br>
<span style=3D"font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: =
9pt; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); ">At 11:11 PM -0500 2/20/13, Ray=
mond Wagner wrote:</span><br>
<span style=3D"font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: =
9pt; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); ">>I think the misunderstandi=
ng here is what a "video source" actually </span><br>
<span style=3D"font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: =
9pt; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); ">>is. A video source is a li=
st of channels. Every tuner tied to that </span><br>
<span style=3D"font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: =
9pt; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); ">>video source must be able =
to access every channel defined in that </span><br>
<span style=3D"font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: =
9pt; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); ">>video source. You will wan=
t to set up two video sources, one for </span><br>
<span style=3D"font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: =
9pt; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); ">>Toronto channels and one f=
or Buffalo channels, and tie your four </span><br>
<span style=3D"font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: =
9pt; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); ">>tuners to which ever of th=
ose two sources is appropriate.</span><br>
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yle=3D"font-size: 12px; white-space: pre;"><br>
</span></font><span style=3D"font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-seri=
f; font-size: 9pt; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); ">Adding slightly =
to Raymond's response, you have to do a scan with </span><br>
<span style=3D"font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: =
9pt; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); ">each tuner to inform Myth as t=
o the channels that it can receive. I, </span><br>
<span style=3D"font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: =
9pt; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); ">too, am in the GTA and I found=
that my UHF antenna picks up channels </span><br>
<span style=3D"font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: =
9pt; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); ">from _both_ Toronto and Buffal=
o even though it is aimed at Toronto. </span><br>
<span style=3D"font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: =
9pt; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); ">So you may find that your "Tor=
onto" tuner is actually also receiving </span><br>
<span style=3D"font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: =
9pt; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); ">Buffalo stations and vice vers=
a. If certain signals are somewhat </span><br>
<span style=3D"font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: =
9pt; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); ">weak, you may want to delete t=
hose channels from that tuner. (NBC </span><br>
<span style=3D"font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: =
9pt; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); ">broadcasts from the furthest-s=
outh site and isn't reliable for me.) </span><br>
<span style=3D"font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: =
9pt; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); ">OTOH, you may find that either=
antenna is perfectly capable of </span><br>
<span style=3D"font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: =
9pt; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); ">receiving certain channels (PB=
S, for example).</span><br>
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yle=3D"font-size: 12px; white-space: pre;"><br>
</span></font><span style=3D"font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-seri=
f; font-size: 9pt; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); ">And, just for in=
terest, are you using the Myth package from MacPorts </span><br>
<span style=3D"font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: =
9pt; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); ">[1] or the pre-compiled .app b=
undle?</span><br>
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f; font-size: 9pt; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); ">Craig</span><br>
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<tt><font size=3D"2" style=3D"font-family: arial; white-space: normal; ">Fr=
om my vantage point west of Toronto, one antenna has to be pointed south, a=
nd the other east. So the channel lists are quite segregated. Two of the ch=
annels (CTV 9, and CHCH 11) happen to be VHF, and they come in about equall=
y well on both (UHF) antennas.</font><span style=3D"font-family: arial; whi=
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'm running the precompiled packages from SourceForge (0.25-intel-10.7v0.25.=
1)</font></div>
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