[mythtv-users] BE off line

[Daryl McDonald]

On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 8:44 AM, Michael T. Dean <mtdean at thirdcontact.com>wrote:

> On 08/20/2013 03:03 PM, Daryl McDonald wrote:
>
>> On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 11:34 PM, Daryl McDonald wrote:
>>
>>> On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 11:12 PM, Michael T. Dean wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 08/19/2013 06:35 PM, Daryl McDonald wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> When scheduled recordings get an "F" on the far right in upcoming
>>>>> recordings, the program will not be recorded because my Back End is
>>>>> "off
>>>>> line". The first time it happened I followed a wiki or some sort of
>>>>> thread
>>>>> suggesting  deleting all cards and connections and reputting them
>>>>> subsequently. I was able to record, for a day and a half, and  the BE
>>>>> went
>>>>> off line again. If there is a better tack, I'm all ears, or eyes as the
>>>>> case may be.
>>>>>
>>>> Ah, so you mean an offline recording status (presumably for all upcoming
>>>> recordings?).  Assuming you didn't start the backend with the --no-sched
>>>> development/testing option, an offline recording status means that all
>>>> the
>>>> backends that could possibly record that showing are offline.
>>>>
>>>> If you have multiple backends, make sure that all of them are still
>>>> running and accessible over the network when you see offline status for
>>>> upcoming recordings.
>>>>
>>>> If you're only supposed to have one master backend, this is probably due
>>>> to an Input Connections configuration issue--generally it's caused
>>>> (exactly
>>>> as you described, where things seem to work for a while then at some
>>>> time
>>>> in the future just stop working) by having some defined, but
>>>> unconnected,
>>>> piece(s) in your setup.  So, for example, having capture cards defined,
>>>> but
>>>> no inputs connected to Video Sources, or having Video Sources defined,
>>>> but
>>>> not connected to any inputs, or having channels defined but not part of
>>>> any
>>>> valid Video Sources (even "shadow" channels--having multiple copies of
>>>> channels defined).
>>>>
>>>> If it's the latter, you may be using the right approach to clean it
>>>> up--"Delete all capture cards" (not "Delete all capture cards on
>>>> <hostname>" /and/ "Delete all video sources."  And, if you're using the
>>>> right approach to clean it up, it means you're consistently making the
>>>> same
>>>> mistakes/misconfiguration when re-creating the pieces you've deleted.
>>>>
>>>> See, also, http://www.gossamer-threads.**com/lists/mythtv/users/264034#
>>>> **264034<http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/264034#264034>
>>>>
>>> Thanks for the info gentlemen, and for the patience, reading replies and
>>>
>>> many other posts makes me feel like less of a newbie, despite the facts.
>>>
>>>    Checking again today the recording status for my PVR-150 card is "F".
>> If
>> I'm reading you correctly, Mr. Dean I need to focus on my input
>> connections
>> after deleting all capture cards (not delete all capture cards on
>> <hostname>) and reinstalling them. I've assigned motorola to the
>> [MPEG:/dev/video2/](Tuner 1). Do I need to delete these other aspects of
>> this card?:
>> [MPEG: /dev/video2] (S-video 1)
>> [MPEG: /dev/video2] (composite 1)
>> [MPEG: /dev/video2] (S-video 2)
>> [MPEG: /dev/video2] (composite 2)
>> as these all have nothing connected to them and no source assigned? And if
>> so how? I've tried highlighting and the "d" key, to no avail.
>>
>>
> You can't delete inputs from the Input Connections screen, as that lists
> all available inputs on the card.  You need to ensure that every single
> Capture Card has at least one input connected, and that every single Video
> Source has valid Channels and that every single Channel is in a valid (and
> connected) Video Source.  The "Input Connections configuration" is the sum
> total of all configuration related to Capture Card, Video Source, Channel,
> and Input Connections (as they're all tied together with the Input
> Connections).  So, I'm saying that /something/ in there is almost
> definitely misconfigured.  The challenge is figuring out what.  :(
>
> The "Delete all..." approach (with Video Sources and Capture Cards) simply
> deletes all of the configuration related to Input Connections, allowing you
> to start fresh with an "empty" Input Connections configuration--as if you
> had a brand new database.  Unfortunately, though, after doing that, you
> have to configure everything properly, or you'll still have problems.  That
> means you need to go through the process, again, slowly and consider all
> the instructions and things you've tried to attempt to figure out what you
> need to do differently to get a proper configuration.
>
>
> Mike
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Ok I'm starting to narrow this down some, it's just my PVR-150 card that is
going offline, and the last couple times I have just deleted  it and not
all cards, which brings it back. I hope that is not part of my problem.
Sometimes it shows up as "video0" and others as "video2" which necessitates
me editing my "check_stb" file, but I'm learning :). The wikis that I've
seen so far don't go any further in detail for "input connections" to allow
me to find the glitch. What should I look at next? There are only two
screens for the ivtv card, I think I have the first one correct; the
recording priority numbers on the second screen continue to elevate with
each reconfiguration, this time to 0,6,6, respectively, I lowered the 6's
to 2's, but in the upcoming recordings they still show as 6. All
suggestions greatly appreciated.

Daryl
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