[mythtv-users] How to record a TV serial (was Re: mythtv-users Digest, Vol 111, Issue 46)

[Karl Newman]

On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 4:06 AM, blind Pete <peter_s_d at fastmail.com.au> wrote:
> On Thu, 21 Jun 2012, Michael T. Dean wrote:
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>> On 06/20/2012 05:07 PM, Stephan Seitz wrote:
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>> > On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 09:37:14AM -0400, Michael T. Dean wrote:
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>> >> On 06/19/2012 09:27 AM, Simon Waldman wrote:
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>> >>> From: "Michael T. Dean"
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>> >>>> Timeslot rules are designed for something else, entirely, and should
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>> >>>> almost never be used by anyone. This is especially true since the
>> >>>> case
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>> >>>> for which they were designed generally no longer exists.
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>> >>> I'm curious - what was that use case?
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>> >> Basically, it was designed for a show whose listings information was
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>> >> useless for scheduling because the new episodes were generally shows
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>> >> without any identifying information (no subtitle or description and a
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>> >> "generic" programid)--making them look exactly like the rerun
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>> >> episodes, and making them impossible to do duplicate matching on.
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>> >> I.e. it's a workaround for broken guide data.
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> After following the link from two post earlier, it is apparent that
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> following The Daily Show would have been a challenge, but just because
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> the guide data does not do what you want does not mean that it is
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> broken.
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> In the TDS example they would not publish the guest list two weeks in
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> advance because they would not know in advance. I'm certain that they
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> plan ahead and actively negotiate well in advance, but sometimes
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> Hollywood size actors throw a Hollywood sized hissy fit, or get sick,
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> or have real work show up, or just get caught in traffic. Then TDS
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> will have to drag out the emergency guest (and pretend that he was
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> always their guest of choice). If they are nice, the broadcaster
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> will update the EPG to reflect reality - even if it is after the start
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> of the show.
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>> > That is funny because this is exactly my problem. Worse, the start and
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>> > end times differ about +/-1 minute as well. So don’t tell me this case
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>> > doesn’t exist anymore.
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>> > I wouldn’t trust blindly the EPG information. The EPG title for the
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>> > UEFA football match last Monday was changed from „UEFA <something>” to
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>> > „Italien - Irland”, so Mythtv refused to record (no match). So I know
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>> > of more problems recording with EPG information as only rule set.
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>> The Daily Show case doesn't exist, anymore. For that show, on US TV, the
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>> timeslot rule was appropriate back when the episodes didn't have
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>> appropriate programids. Now that we get programids for it, we don't even
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>> need the timeslot rules (basically, now TMS seems to be providing the
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>> smarts that the timeslot rules used to provide--knowing that "this
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>> showing is the new episode every day, even though we don't know who/what
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>> is on it").
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> Some people are not in the US, and watch shows that are even more
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> obscure than TDS.
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>> The timeslot rule was not designed to fix the issue you're seeing,
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>> because of the sliding times. So, we're back to custom/power recording
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>> rules being the best bet. Similarly with changing titles, you'd need
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>> custom/power recording rules.
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>> I'm the first to admit that listings data still has issues, but the
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>> issues with your data can't be solved with a timeslot rule.
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>> Mike
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> Recording a timed slot (I need a better name for this) would go a long
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> way to covering the messy, unpredictable and undocumented reality of
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> live TV.
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VCR+ ?
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