[mythtv-users] missing tv schedules

[Michael Watson]

On 22/02/2012 5:28 AM, Gavin Hurlbut wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 2:00 AM, Michael Watson
> <michael at thewatsonfamily.id.au>  wrote:
>>> First off, your facts are off-whack.  Windows OS + WMC is not $100.  I
>>> haven't seen a Windows OS *alone* for as low as $100 *legally* in many
>>> years...
>> http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/MS-WINDOWS-7-Home-Premium-32Bit-Full-Version-SP1-Genuine-Microsoft-OEM-DVD-/220946084155?pt=AU_software&hash=item337169b13b
>> <http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/MS-WINDOWS-7-Home-Premium-32Bit-Full-Version-SP1-Genuine-Microsoft-OEM-DVD-/220946084155?pt=AU_software&hash=item337169b13b>
>> $115 Aussie Dollars, is close to $100.   I guess thats like $150 US
>> nowadays.....
> Buying from ebay does not in any way ensure it is legal.  They can say
> what they want in the description, chances are that is not a legal
> copy, hence the low price (which was over the $100US line anyways) :)
Your seriously accusing a reputable business of selling software illegally??
Yes, its more than $100us, $122us actually.   (Less than a 1 year 
subscription to schedules direct!!)

>
>>> Not going to happen.  We actively discourage MythTV users from messing
>>> in the database as they invariably bugger it up and it takes many
>>> hours of handholding to fix their damage (if it can even be fixed,
>>> depending on what they do).
>> Its opensource software, why is the DB so clouded in mystery, that
>> everyone is discouraged from even looking at the tables....  I for one,
>> would love to know where the status of SBE is located, so I can inform
>> the MBE on a SBE/FE shutdown, that is merely going to sleep, not
>> disconnected.  (As mythwelcome does such a poor job of shutting down a SBE/FE when it is not required)

> I clearly stated the reasons.  People who need help finding their way
> around the db are very likely to mess it up as they poke around.  We
> have had countless cases of this happening, and we are tired of
> providing support for things that shouldn't be happening at all.
> Additionally, people make third-party scripts that twiddle the
> database and really mess it up, and then blame MythTV.
So you assume that anybody "twiddling" with the data is going to screw 
it up.
As the software is not perfect (but what software is), many of us 
"users" are forced/inclined to "twiddle" to achieve our desired result, 
I dont see this as a bad thing, more the power that is MythTV.
>
> If you are a capable DBA, you are likely not going to mess it up, but
> you would also most likely not be asking for help to go through it.
You would prefer users to spend hours trolling the the masses of source 
and possibly not find what they are looking rather than ask a simple 
question?  What is this list for again?
>
> As for the status of the SBE, to my knowledge, that is not in the
> database at all.  That would be an odd way to architect it.
Doesnt seem odd to me, when "in use programs" are stored in a table.
It is assumed that when a SBE is shutdown by means other than on 
instruction of the MBE, that it is no longer available for recording 
duties.  I see this as floored logic, when (on many occasions) people on 
this list claim that Myth is to be regarded as an appliance, and the use 
of the system for other purposes is not advised)
>
>> I have been using Myth for around 6 years, my only beef with it is the
>> attitude of many of the Dev's.
> Your beef has been noted.
>
And ignored I am sure.