[mythtv-users] Schedules Direct Service for OTA Coverage

Michael T. Dean mtdean at thirdcontact.com
Mon Dec 31 14:52:34 UTC 2012


On 12/31/2012 09:47 AM, Michael T. Dean wrote:
> On 12/31/2012 12:08 AM, R. G. Newbury wrote:
>> On 12/23/2012 01:08 AM, Joseph Fry wrote:
>>>
>>>         I have a channel lineup for my area based on Antenna 
>>> coverage. I
>>>         also
>>>         have a amplified directional antenna that picks up some
>>>         programming that
>>>         would normally be outside the normal reception scope of the 
>>> average
>>>         Antenna. Is there a way to extend the channel list of schedules
>>>         direct
>>>         to include channels that would normally be just outside the
>>>         range of the
>>>         average user? Or can I setup specific channels to preform EIT
>>>         gathering
>>>         while populating the other channels using schedules direct?
>>>
>>>         At one point I considered dropping schedules direct, but the
>>>         amount of
>>>         Guide data that I obtain is very good! Much better than what 
>>> the
>>>         cable
>>>         provider gives their cable boxes. I'm a big fan of getting 2
>>>         weeks worth
>>>         of guide data!
>>>
>>>         Maybe I can add more than 1 lineup? Or merge 2 lineups into 
>>> a master
>>>         lineup? One from this area and another from where my 
>>> directional
>>>         antenna
>>>         is pointed. So far I haven't had any channel conflicts or
>>>         anything and
>>>         the reception is great. I added a 24db gain General Electric
>>>         drop amp to
>>>         the mix and now I get 49 stations OTA. Including 2 different
>>>         ABC's from
>>>         2 area's.
>>>
>>>         Anyhow, I didn't know if anyone has ran into any issues like
>>>         this and
>>>         knew a good solution to fix it. Thanks!
>>>
>>>     Yes, you can have more than one line up.. Just choose the area you
>>>     are receiving the extra channels from.. It's never a good idea to
>>>     mix EIT with SD,from what I have read in the past, they don't play
>>>     well together..
>>>
>>>
>>> I think the question is, "how do you create a video source containing
>>> both lineups".  The input connections page in setup only allows you to
>>> link a single source to each tuner, and each source only allows you to
>>> select a single lineup.
>>
>> The answer is: you don't. Myth presumes that all of the channels in a 
>> source can be tuned by any tuner using that source. If a tuner can 
>> only receive some of the channels, then some of your recordings will 
>> fail, because myth will attempt to use that tuner to record a show on 
>> a channel that that tuner cannot receive. So of course, each source 
>> only allows a single lineup, and each tuner 'sees' only a single 
>> source. It is a necessary restraint, but one which users sometimes do 
>> not wish to grasp.
>
> Yes. a MythTV Video Source is the list of channels that are tunable 
> (and usable) by a particular input and their tuning information.  A 
> Schedules Direct lineup is just a list of channels and their tuning 
> information.

er, listings information

>   You can have a single SD lineup shared by multiple MythTV Video 
> Sources (with each having either different tuning information--i.e. 
> same channels, but tuned by one source using HDHR Prime to request the 
> channel by number and tuned by another source using HD-PVR's external 
> channel change script--or even having a different subset of the 
> channels in the lineup--i.e. for ClearQAM vs HD-PVR).  A single Video 
> Source, however, can't use multiple SD lineups.
>
> The best approach if you do need to use listings data from multiple 
> lineups in a single Video Source is to create a wrapper script for 
> mythfilldatabase that uses tv_grab_na_dd --dd-data (do not use 
> --output) to get the raw (DataDirect format, not XMLTV format) 
> listings data and then use mythfilldatabase --dd-file to load the 
> listings for each lineup.  Make sure you don't use mythfilldatabase 
> --file (do not use XMLTV format data) or you will break your data and 
> will be missing some data.
>
> Mike


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