[mythtv-users] A plea for some consideration for the poor suffering MythTV users

[Thomas Mashos]

On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 10:59 PM, Nick Rout <nick.rout at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 1:26 PM, Robin Gilks <g8ecj at gilks.org> wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 6:20 PM, Joe Henley <joehenley at kc.rr.com> wrote:
>>>> There were a couple of replies which were helpful, but in the replies so
>>>> far, not one -- NOT ONE -- has replied to his request.  _Documentation
>>>> please_ to help him install a product which he likes.
>>>
>>> The reason nobody has complied with his request is because it would
>>> not be productive.  There are much better ways to install or compile
>>> mythtv then manually installing dependencies.  Which he is asking for
>>> instructions to do.  Best way forward is to use apt to install mythtv
>>> dependencies like other people have suggested in this thread.  The
>>> developers of apt designed a very powerful system.  Use it.
>>>
>>> Now installing or compiling stuff for windows?  That is a pain in the
>>> ass and does require a wiki article explaining how to manually install
>>> 20+ dependencies.
>>
>> I assume from all the replies that if ever anyone encounters a problem
>> installing MythTV then they blow away their chosen distribution and
>> install the latest Mythbuntu.
>>
>> From those suggestions, what would be the expected result from using
>> 'apt-get ....' on my Gentoo system for example - yup, got it in one -
>> " -bash: apt-get: command not found"
>>
>> In other words, Linux != Mythbuntu, even for a MythTV install.
>
> While you are technically correct, it is fast becoming the case that
> mythtv = mythbuntu (at least by default) for many people for a few
> reasons, and I am not trying to be exhaustive, but:
>
> 1. general newbie user familiarity with ubuntu, combined with the fact
> you can get a lot of other software that people also like to run on
> their backend on ubuntu (case in point, logitech media server (LMS)).
>
> 2. only one other specialised mythtv distro now that mythdora is dead,
> and that is LinHES. LinHES is a great product but doesn't have the
> market penetration. It has a very dedicated, but quite small team. I
> was asked on this list to submit a ticket to get LMS into LinHES, and
> I did so, but so far I don't think its been looked at or assigned, let
> alone done. That is unfortunately a deal breaker for me. Not a
> criticism of the LinHES guys, just an example of the fact that a
> smaller project may give you less options for "extras".
>
> 3. mythbuntu's very up to date packaging - both master and
> latest-release-fixes up to date after every commit. This is pretty
> important.
>
> I know people will have other ideas about what is good, bad or
> indifferent about their fave distro, and point out that they have been
> running myth on slackware since 0.16 without a reboot, but for a user
> looking for an easy experience and up to date packages, mythbuntu must
> be near the top of their list.
>
> I used to be a big gentoo fanboy, I ran gentoo installfests,
> proseltised it till the cows came home (pun? sorry), but got too busy.
> When I retire I might have time for it :)
>
> One thing about mint is that it does have mythtv in it's repos, but
> the mythbuntu repos do not (presently) work with mint.
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Please let me know how the Mythbuntu repos don't work with Mint. Are
you specifically talking about the mythbuntu-repos configuration
utility? The repos can still be added manually and should work fine on
Mint.

Thanks,

Thomas Mashos