[mythtv-users] HDHR Prime out for delivery - Any issues installing?

Robert McNamara robert.mcnamara at gmail.com
Wed Sep 7 02:30:32 UTC 2011

On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 7:18 PM, Ronald Frazier <ron at ronfrazier.net> wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 8:46 PM, Robert McNamara
> <robert.mcnamara at gmail.com> wrote:
>> If the card will authenticate in the system, you are supposed to be
>> able to get copy freely channels (read: everything useful for Myth)
>> without the need for activation.  So the theory goes, anyway-- I had
>> planned to test it but my card was activated and paired at the same
>> time.  YMMV.
> Wrong. You will get unencrypted channels with a cablecard that doesn't
> have a complete activation, but you won't get all copy free channels.
> If you think about it, it's possible to have Cope Free channels that
> are only part of premium packages, so it wouldn't make sense to have
> them available on an unauthenticated card (and also, Copy Free
> channels are still encrypted, so the cablecard wouldn't be able to
> decrypt them without receiving the decryption keys). I can confirm
> that it works this way, both based on a number of users I've helped
> with getting their Ceton cards working in myth, and based on my own
> experiences.

You are missing the context.  The card he is speaking of is already
provisioned.  It's in his cable box.  The only thing missing if he
takes it and puts it in the Prime is the pairing, which is necessary
to get channels where CCI != 0x00.  The above response is based on
being explicitly told such by SiliconDust employees.

26-08-2011 17:07:51 < jludka!bitbucket at pdpc/supporter/active/jludka:
also, card activation status is irrelevant for mythtv, it is only
needed for copy protected stuff
26-08-2011 17:09:44 < jludka!bitbucket at pdpc/supporter/active/jludka:
some providers have their stuff set to report not-subscribed then
switch to subscribed if the card isnt activated
26-08-2011 17:09:51 < jludka!bitbucket at pdpc/supporter/active/jludka:
or so i'm told anyway
26-08-2011 17:10:11 < jludka!bitbucket at pdpc/supporter/active/jludka: i
have been running an unactivated card for a year now on fios and it
works fine ;)


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