[mythtv-users] Best front-end machine?
Michael T. Dean
mtdean at thirdcontact.com
Sun Sep 4 18:43:23 UTC 2011
On 09/04/2011 02:11 PM, jedi wrote:
> On Sat, Sep 03, 2011 at 01:11:36PM -0400, Michael T. Dean wrote:
>> On 09/03/2011 11:02 AM, jedi wrote:
>>> On Fri, Sep 02, 2011 at 02:49:48AM -0400, Raymond Wagner wrote:
>>>> On 9/2/2011 02:16, john.baab wrote:
>>>>> There are some pre-built ion boxes too, which generally have smaller
>>>>> cases but don't give you the flexibility of building your own.
>>>> Pre-built or not, Atom-based systems have zero flexibility. The CPU
>>> That's pretty much true of any low profile machine. It's not just
>>> limited to Atom based machines. Lack of flexibility is a trade off for
>>> greatly reduced size.
>> Losing flexibility in adding more hardware is a trade off of choosing a
>> small case. Using a processor that can't process the data it's given in
>> any case--large or small--is just choosing to limit yourself for no good
>> reason, IMHO.
> Cutting the cost in half or by two thirds is actually a great reason.
> When compared to a Mini (or better hardware), an ION is cheap enough
> just to try out as an experiment even if you aren't expecting it to work.
Which is why I don't do off-the-shelf boxes like the Mac Mini or ASRock
Vision 3D. You can get a real computer for the cost of an Atom+ION box
and that runs at nearly the same power usage.
They were only shown as proof that small form factor can be done with a
real processor in such a way that I didn't become the tech support for
random people who read my post--instead, ASRock can handle tech
support. Or the reader can actually read some of the articles about how
to build their own small-form-factor PC with Core 2/Core i/Athlon II
processor and that idles at low power usage and save themselves money
(and be their own tech support :). Below are a few old articles I've
> If you are really worried about the future, then there is no substitute
> for building/buying something that can be upgraded when your requirements
> change. Otherwise you are bound to have more expensive doorstops versus
> cheaper doorstops.
Agreed. I'd build. I wouldn't get a mobile processor (because those
are extremely expensive--which is why Mac Mini and ASRock Vision 3D are
expensive). And, I'd get a system for equal or lower price than an
Atom+ION--but that still idles at nearly the same power usage as the
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