[mythtv-users] AutoExpire: Oldest Show First, yet newly recorded shows still expire...

[Michael T. Dean]

On 07/19/2011 10:48 AM, Steven Adeff wrote:
> right, I understand, but why do I have so much in the "deleted" group
> that doesn't need to be there? ie. some of it won't actually be
> deleted for a while yet they still have been moved there. It would
> seem more intuitive for recordings that still remain on the drive to
> still be visible in the All Programs group and then when they need to
> be deleted they are then actually deleted and removed. I understand
> the idea of having a list of the order in which recordings will be
> deleted, but I guess I don't understand why they are removed from the
> All Programs group when they are set to "expire"?

Recordings are never placed into the Deleted recording group unless 
someone deletes the recording (or, actually, if you were to set up a 
recording rule to store a recording to the Deleted recording group, that 
would "delete" the recording as soon as it starts).  So, I have to 
believe that if your recording rule is properly configured, someone is 
actually deleting these recordings.  (On the bright side, since you're 
using the Deleted recording group, if you don't want them to be deleted, 
you can undelete them.  Just go to the Deleted recording group in Watch 
Recordings and add all the recordings to the playlist with MENU 
(possibly 2x)|Add this Group to Playlist, then MENU|Playlist 
options|Storage Options|Change Recording Group and select an appropriate 
group, such as Default.)

> that said, I don't have the expirer using the watched status (we have
> 4+ people that use the system so this feature doesn't work for us,
> I've had it turned off for a while), and I have enough storage space
> to hold about 3-4weeks worth of shows (according to my currently
> recorded listing) so I have tried to set it up so it will only use the
> recording age to determine expiration. the users know how to set
> something to not expire if they won't be able to watch it within that
> ~3 weeks of recording age.
>
> I pulled everything out of the "deleted" group and am hoping
> mythbackend "re-figures" the expiration thing, which so far it looks
> to be doing. I'll see how it goes for now and report back.

Yeah, sounds like you have it re-fixed.  Just might want to check your 
recording rules to see if someone accidentally chose the Deleted 
recording group for one or more of them.

Also, you might want to check to make sure your MythWeb is properly 
secured.  Programs could also be deleted by some miscreant who found an 
open/insecure MythWeb and is either trying to send you a message or 
who's (less-than-efficiently) trying to wreak havoc on your system 
(since he hasn't realized he has to delete a recording from the Deleted 
recording group to actually delete the file).

For what it's worth, a better way to send a message is to schedule a 
1min manual recording with the title, "Your MythWeb is insecure"--not 
that I would know anything about that.

Mike