[mythtv-users] Can't seem to permanently delete channels

Steven Adeff adeffs.mythtv at gmail.com
Sun Jan 9 17:21:57 UTC 2011

On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 12:09 PM, Raymond Wagner <raymond at wagnerrp.com> wrote:
> On 1/9/2011 11:46, Steven Adeff wrote:
>> On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 12:56 PM, Gabe Rubin<gaberubin at gmail.com>  wrote:
>>> On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 9:47 AM, Michael T. Dean
>>> <mtdean at thirdcontact.com>  wrote:
>>>>  On 12/30/2010 12:16 PM, Eric Sharkey wrote:
>>>>> I'm having some trouble deleting channels.
>>>>> For background, I have one HD STB dedicated for MythTV usage.  It's
>>>>> connected to the backend in two ways, both with firewire and also via
>>>>> composite into a PVR-150.  My goal is to have the channels available
>>>>> over firewire record over firewire and those that aren't record
>>>>> through the PVR-150.  I have two channel lineups.  Source 4 is for
>>>>> firewire and source 6 is for the PVR-150.  I initially set up the
>>>>> channels as the same, and planned to delete from source 4 any channels
>>>>> typically unavailable over firewire.  The problem is, they keep coming
>>>>> back.
>>>>> I first tried deleting channels through the channel editor in
>>>>> mythtv-setup.
>>>> This is the correct way.
>>>>>   This appeared to work, but I noticed some time later
>>>>> that I was still getting failed recordings for the channels I deleted.
>>>>>  I checked again and the channels were still there.
>>>> Because mythfilldatabase re-added the channels because you did not
>>>> remove
>>>> them from your Schedules Direct lineup (the same would have happened if
>>>> using XMLTV and you didn't remove them from your XMLTV configuration).
>>> There are several ways to resolve this.
>>> One is to deselect the channel from your schedules direct lineup.
>>> Another is to have mythfilldatabase use the --remove-new-channels flag
>>> when it runs (there is an option in either mythtv-setup or the
>>> settings in mythtv to add flags for mythfilldatabase to use).
>>> The final option is to just hide the channel using the channel editor
>>> in mythweb (and presumably elsewhere).
>>> Note that if you do the first option, these channels likely won't be
>>> available to your other tuners, so that is not a good option.  If you
>>> use the second option and your lineup adds channels, they won't
>>> automatically get added to your database.  This is why I use the third
>>> option.
>> Here's my situation,
>> I have three "sources", one for firewire, one for DVB, one for my HDPVR.
>> The source for the DVB does not add channels when mythfilldatabase
>> runs, the other two keep adding channels that are technically in the
>> lineup but I've removed from the database.
>> So why does one not add channels but the other two do? AND how do I
>> then have channels on one but not the other two if mythfilldatabase is
>> going to continuously want to keep adding those channels back
> Guide data providers do not currently provide us enough information to tune
> a digital channel.  Analog channels, and anything with an external tuner,
> simply take a single channel number, and can be automatically added from the
> guide data.  If you don't want those channels re-added, either mark them as
> invisible, remove them from your Schedules Direct lineup, or alter the
> mythfilldatabase call to force it to ignore new channels.

So with the DVB lineup it doesn't add the channels because it's DVB,
whereas the HDPVR and Firewire tuners add the channels because it's
just tuning an external device?

I guess I'll have to add the --remove-new-channels option to
mythfilldatabase then.

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