[mythtv-users] Best way to integrate a Netflix feed into Myth ?

Raymond Wagner raymond at wagnerrp.com
Tue Aug 23 20:01:53 UTC 2011


On 8/23/2011 15:32, Phil Bridges wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 2:55 PM, Raymond Wagner<raymond at wagnerrp.com>  wrote:
>> On 8/23/2011 14:10, Jay Ashworth wrote:
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Devin Heitmueller"<dheitmueller at kernellabs.com>
>>>>> Well, I'm pretty sure the 1999 Diamond Rio MP3 format shifting case
>>>>> covers ripping your DVDs for private one-at-a-time use, so I can't see
>>>>> why you couldn't do *that* with your BDs as well, diskspace
>>>>> permitting.
>>>> I would suggest not speaking to legal issues, in particular when you
>>>> appear to be poorly informed. Format shifting has been shown numerous
>>>> times to not be applicable to DVDs due to the DMCA rules related to
>>>> DRM (which don't apply to CDs since there was no DRM involved).
>>> In fact you're correct; I cited the wrong case.  I meant to cite the
>>> Kaleidascape DVD jukebox DMCA case, which speaks directly to whether
>>> it's acceptable to rip DVDs (theoretically violating DMCA) for
>>> non-infringing uses.
>> This case had nothing to do with DMCA, as no one was violating DMCA or
>> performing unauthorized decryption.  Kaleidescape is fully licensed by
>> the DVD CCA.  They have a media vault that stores all of your DVDs, and
>> requires that the DVD be locked in the system for playback to occur.
>> Rather than require a ROM to access the content at time of playback, the
>> content is archived to a RAID array, and streamed to the playback
>> device, much in the same way MythTV is set up.
>>
>> The lawsuit was over whether or not Kaleidescape was in violation of
>> their DVD CCA license by operating in this manner.  Had Kaleidescape
>> been found in violation, they would have lost their license, at which
>> point they would be performing illegal decryption in violation of the
>> DMCA.  However, since they won the case and kept their license, DMCA
>> never factored into this at all.
> Kaliedescape behaves that way with regard to Blu-Rays, but *not* with
> regard to DVDs.

Seems you're right.  When the whole thing came up years ago, I had 
thought one of the reasons Kaleidescape won was because it stored all 
the disks in the vaults, but one of the claims the DVD CCA actually 
brought up was that the system allowed for users to indefinitely store 
rented and borrowed DVDs, even though the company officially denounced 
such actions by their users.

Personally, I found the whole suit extremely comical at the time, the 
whole idea that someone would spend $10000+ on a home theater system, 
just to steal a couple hundred DVDs at around $5 each.


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