[mythtv-users] Can I mythexport without transcoding?

Another Sillyname anothersname at googlemail.com
Fri Sep 3 18:53:59 UTC 2010


On 3 September 2010 19:48, Another Sillyname
<anothersname at googlemail.com> wrote:
> On 3 September 2010 19:36, Matt Emmott <memmott at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 2:01 PM, Another Sillyname
>> <anothersname at googlemail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> On 3 September 2010 18:35, Matt Emmott <memmott at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 1:09 PM, Another Sillyname
>>> > <anothersname at googlemail.com> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> Matt
>>> >>
>>> >> Perhaps you could give an outline of exactly what you're trying to
>>> >> achieve and people could suggest a different way to get to the end
>>> >> result?
>>> >>
>>> >> For example I'm trying to get my head around why you would use an RSS
>>> >> feed to distribute the information rather then a pull from a web link.
>>> >>  Are you wanting to remotely automatically pull the program based on
>>> >> it being in the RSS list?
>>> >> _______________________________________________
>>> >
>>> > Heh, sorry. I sometimes go all over the map with these posts.Here's what
>>> > I'm
>>> > trying to do:
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > I have my myth system set up at home, and I've built a combined BE/FE
>>> > here
>>> > at work, as well as on my work laptop. In a nutshell, I want to
>>> > transport
>>> > recordings to work to watch at lunchtime etc, and I want to use Myth to
>>> > play
>>> > the movies at work. Some coworkers have expressed an interest in Myth
>>> > for
>>> > themselves and I want to be able to demo its features.
>>> >
>>> > I want the highest quality possible since we have both a 60" Plasma and
>>> > very
>>> > nice (albeit 720p) projector in our conference room. As was stated
>>> > previously, moving that much data across the internet is not such a hot
>>> > idea, although I could see myself doing a one-off download if needed (I
>>> > have
>>> > a 2mb uplink from home).
>>> >
>>> > The reason I attached myself to mythexport is two-fold: One, I would
>>> > like to
>>> > automatically export recordings to an ipod-friendly format for my Evo
>>> > and my
>>> > girlfriend's iPod. That's out of the scope of this post but it's what
>>> > got me
>>> > into mythexport in the first place. Two, I want an easy, semi-automatic
>>> > way
>>> > to get tv shows from home to work and have virtually no coding, html or
>>> > sql
>>> > skills. So the thought was to have mirobridge running on my portable
>>> > computer and mythexport on my home computer, and either manually import
>>> > the
>>> > specific episodes through Miro or set up subscriptions and let my
>>> > computers
>>> > do the talking automatically.
>>> >
>>> > I have a lot of ideas in my head at once so I'm sorry if I wasn't more
>>> > clear
>>> > in my other posts. Thanks for the input though, sometimes I need to be
>>> > smacked around to stay on track. :-)
>>> >
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>>>
>>> OK
>>>
>>> In that case I'd suggest you go a different way.
>>>
>>> I don't know if you've played with mythweb?  If you have you can see
>>> that there are links on the recorded programs pages that will allow
>>> you to 'pull' the source file either before or after a transcode.  I
>>> have to say I'd STRONGLY urge you to do some kind of transcoding as
>>> pulling a 1gb file even over a 2mb link is going to take a lot of time
>>> and also upset your ISP in all likelihood.  The other advantage with
>>> nuvexport is it changes the output files to 'recognisable' names and
>>> can also strip all adverts as well as topping and tailing the
>>> recording, by outputting the files to a storage group you can also
>>> access them remotely via mythweb.
>>>
>>> To just 'view' quickly stuff at work flash will probably suffice (and
>>> transcoding into flash can almost be done on the fly if you have a
>>> decent processor at the back end), however you should perhaps look at
>>> using nuvexport to transcode to high quality avi's or x264's and then
>>> pull them for movies and stuff.
>>>
>>> To give you an example a 6-7GB BBC HD x264 1080 source recording will
>>> usually compress down to about 1.1GB x264 720p after transcoding
>>> without any quality loss IMHO.  1.5GB Standard Definition (SD)
>>> recordings can be compressed down to 250-300mb files.
>>>
>>> Hopefully this will give you another path to think about, the tools
>>> already exist to do what you want and you don't need to re-invent the
>>> wheel.
>>>
>>> Regards and have a good weekend.
>>> _______________________________________________
>>>
>>
>> Thanks, but that's not what I want to do. Viewing stuff from work over flash
>> is unwatchable full-screen. It's really blocky and pixelated.
>>
>> I use mythweb a lot, but I don't want to pull down each recording manually,
>> nuvexport it, and then pull it to my other myth machine. With my idea I'd
>> set up an export and then just run the export user jobs on the recording I
>> want, and pick them up on the portable Mythbox.
>>
>> As for the bandwidth, I'm not sure if you saw it but the copying over the
>> net piece would only be on a one-off "emergency" basis.
>>
>>
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>
> You don't have to pull it then nuvexport it.
>
> Run nuvexport as a script locally on the box where the recording is,
> output the file to the same box to a directory that's in a storage
> group.
>
> Now you have the transcoded file available from within mythweb.
>
Sorry I should have added, then do a rsync from the portable box to
the storage group directory when you want to take recordings
elsewhere.


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