[mythtv-users] UK: managing Freeview and Freesat

[Another Sillyname]

On 1 November 2010 21:44, Richard Morton <richard.e.morton at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi
>
> I have a mythtv setup with both freeview and freesat tuners.
>
> If you are not familiar with this; Freeview is DVB-T and Freesat is
> DVB-S. For some reason Freesat doesnt get the appropriate channum when
> scanning. Also in the UK there are regional variations on channel
> broadcasts, which on freeview only your local version is available
> where as on Freesat all variations are available.
>
> I understand from some on this list that different broadcast
> variations on freesat are also at different bitrates; and possibly
> quality.
>
> On freesat there also variations broadcasting HD versions of shows,
> there are only three HD channels so far; BBC HD, BBC 1HD (a HD
> simulcast/mirror of BBC1) & ITV1 HD (simulcast of ITV1 HD).
>
> There are some channels on Freeview not broadcast on Freesat and
> similarly some (lots of) channels on Freesat not broadcast on
> Freeview. In addition there are lots of channels on Freesat that are
> encrypted or simply not of interest.
>
> There are special channels that are used for broadcasting so-called
> interactive TV. Like channel 301 on Freeview, I dont know what the
> equivalents are on FreeSat. Channel 301 for instance is one of the
> redbutton channels for BBC, and it provides listing information so I
> regularly get to watch the F1 forum after the main event which is
> simply picked up by my custom rule. I havent found similar EPG (EIT)
> information on the FreeSat side.
>
> Finally; the designated channel numbering & callsigns of channels on
> Freeview and Freesat are not the same but of course many channels
> carry exactly the same programs at almost exactly the same time (being
> pedantic here as there is going to be a short satellite transmission
> latency).
>
> I would like to put all the channels I am interested at the top of the
> channel listing (possibly by hiding those channels that are of no use)
> and give them all numbers in the <1000 channel number range
>
> I want to avoid multiple copies of the same channel appearing in the
> listing (although regional variations may have to stay), and if we
> remove duplicate channels from appearing I still want to see that a
> program is being recorded in MythWeb. I want to be able to see when a
> program is recording in the listings view - even if it is being
> recorded off one of the duplicate channels...
>
> So my questions:
>
>  - how do other people arrange the numbering in a mixed
> Freeview/Freesat system to get a concise tv guide and yet keep it easy
> to maintain. The database update scripts on the wiki are only for
> either freeview or freesat not combined systems.
>  - if I make a channel not visible; is it still used for scheduling?
>  - If i make the callsigns the same between different broadcasts of
> the same channel, how do you set a preference for it to use the HD
> version if a suitable tuner is available?
>  - If I make two or more channels have the same callsign and number
> does this achieve everything I have stated above or does that cause
> other problems. For instance set ITV1 on freeview, ITV1meridian on
> freesat and itv1hd all called itv1 and channum 3... how do I set a
> preference for it to use the HD channel for some shows and will
> mythweb report correctly that one of the channels is recording a show
> even though for most of the channels it is a duplicate?
>
>  - as an aside, how can i get mythtv to prefer to record the first
> possible showing of a programme (with a preference for HD if
> available) even if that causes conflicts?
>
> thanks for reading and your help in advance
>
> R
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You could try the attached, it's my setup.  However your channel
numbers may be different so I'd check before implementing.

Regards
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