[mythtv-users] IPad and mythtv.
jedi at mishnet.org
Tue May 25 13:43:44 UTC 2010
On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 06:45:22PM -0700, Pest789 wrote:
> Instead of grumbling about it and pleading for someone else to waste
> the time trying to get a Myth frontend approved on the apple store,
You're clearly not paying attention.
I am the one that is saying that it would be a waste of time.
> don't you just set up an .flv transcode job and watch your stuff on
> the iPad via Mythweb like a sane person?
> On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 8:09 AM, jedi <jedi at mishnet.org> wrote:
> > On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 01:03:54PM +1000, Jean-Yves Avenard wrote:
> >> Hi
> >> On 24 May 2010 12:36, jedi <jedi at mishnet.org> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > An iPad doesn't meet the technical requirements of a MythTV frontend.
> >> looks like you're the one defining what the "technical requirements
> >> are" ... thanks for letting us now of your new role :P
> > "plays what MythTV generates" seems terribly obvious actually.
> > If it can't play recordings, how can you call it a MythTV device?
> >> > It doesn't support any of the file formats normally associated with MythTV.
> >> This is just as meaningful as stating that the linux kernel doesn't
> >> support any of the file formats normally associated with MythTV.
> > Not really. Linux is not a closed platform. That means that 3rd parties
> > are free to do interesting things like VDPAU and ffmpeg.
> >> Or saying a windows PC can't play most of the files either because it
> >> doesn't come with the required 3rd party programs.
> > A Windows PC isn't a closed system either. Nor is a Mac.
> > Either one of these can use ffmpeg or VLC to good effect. You won't have
> > to worry about whether not not you can install any of that stuff on a Mac or
> > a PC. You don't have to worry about any of that being disallowed.
> >> > It's ability to support those file formats purely in software is very limited.
> >> Really? why is that? .. Actually, don't need to answer.
> > Weak CPU. It's the same reason the AppleTV or Mini9 doesn't make a very
> > good frontend if you've got HD h264 recordings. Although the ARM is even
> > weaker than an Atom. Software playback on iDevices is gruesome.
> >> Why is it so hard to consider having ffmpeg compiled on the iPad (or
> > That whole apple store approval process would be the first problem.
> >> any platforms for that matter) and use the hardware decoding engine
> >> wherever you can (though, I'd assume you would only need it for h264,
> >> which is the most technically challenging and that the iPad can do
> >> anyway)
> > In a very limited way. It's very misleading to claim that the iPad
> > can do h264.
> >> > Having some other box do the heavy lifting across the network is impractical
> >> > because such a machine would likely have to forego nice things like VDPAU and
> >> > would have to handle stuff like 1080i HD-PVR recordings strictly in software.
> >> This makes no technical sense whatsoever... VDPAU is for playback only
> >> and even today, isn't used by any of the mythtv backend processing
> >> facilities whatsoever.
> >> Less than 2 years ago, no-one considered that you would be able to
> >> play HD-PVR videos without having at least a dual core > 3GHz either..
> >> And even then, my 3.3GHz Core 2 Duo could barely cope.
> > That does not alter what can or cannot play back something.
> >> Would be great if we could come back to a technical only conversation,
> > Fine. Go ahead. You seem to be the one with an axe to grind.
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