[mythtv-users] IPad and mythtv.

Pest789 pest789 at gmail.com
Tue May 25 01:45:22 UTC 2010


Instead of grumbling about it and pleading for someone else to waste
the time trying to get a Myth frontend approved on the apple store,
don't you just set up an .flv transcode job and watch your stuff on
the iPad via Mythweb like a sane person?

On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 8:09 AM, jedi <jedi at mishnet.org> wrote:
> On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 01:03:54PM +1000, Jean-Yves Avenard wrote:
>> Hi
>>
>> On 24 May 2010 12:36, jedi <jedi at mishnet.org> wrote:
>> >
>> >    An iPad doesn't meet the technical requirements of a MythTV frontend.
>>
>> looks like you're the one defining what the "technical requirements
>> are" ... thanks for letting us now of your new role :P
>
>    "plays what MythTV generates" seems terribly obvious actually.
>
>     If it can't play recordings, how can you call it a MythTV device?
>
>>
>> > It doesn't support any of the file formats normally associated with MythTV.
>>
>> This is just as meaningful as stating that the linux kernel doesn't
>> support any of the file formats normally associated with MythTV.
>
>    Not really. Linux is not a closed platform. That means that 3rd parties
> are free to do interesting things like VDPAU and ffmpeg.
>
>>
>> Or saying a windows PC can't play most of the files either because it
>> doesn't come with the required 3rd party programs.
>
>    A Windows PC isn't a closed system either. Nor is a Mac.
>
>    Either one of these can use ffmpeg or VLC to good effect. You won't have
> to worry about whether not not you can install any of that stuff on a Mac or
> a PC. You don't have to worry about any of that being disallowed.
>
>>
>> > It's ability to support those file formats purely in software is very limited.
>>
>> Really? why is that? .. Actually, don't need to answer.
>
>    Weak CPU. It's the same reason the AppleTV or Mini9 doesn't make a very
> good frontend if you've got HD h264 recordings. Although the ARM is even
> weaker than an Atom. Software playback on iDevices is gruesome.
>
>>
>> Why is it so hard to consider having ffmpeg compiled on the iPad (or
>
>    That whole apple store approval process would be the first problem.
>
>> any platforms for that matter) and use the hardware decoding engine
>> wherever you can (though, I'd assume you would only need it for h264,
>> which is the most technically challenging and that the iPad can do
>> anyway)
>
>    In a very limited way. It's very misleading to claim that the iPad
> can do h264.
>
>>
>> > Having some other box do the heavy lifting across the network is impractical
>> > because such a machine would likely have to forego nice things like VDPAU and
>> > would have to handle stuff like 1080i HD-PVR recordings strictly in software.
>>
>> This makes no technical sense whatsoever... VDPAU is for playback only
>> and even today, isn't used by any of the mythtv backend processing
>> facilities whatsoever.
>>
>> Less than 2 years ago, no-one considered that you would be able to
>> play HD-PVR videos without having at least a dual core > 3GHz either..
>> And even then, my 3.3GHz Core 2 Duo could barely cope.
>
>     That does not alter what can or cannot play back something.
>
>>
>> Would be great if we could come back to a technical only conversation,
>
>    Fine. Go ahead. You seem to be the one with an axe to grind.
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